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  • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
    I agree with Tex. The offense should go out every game and get a big lead.
    I think that in conjunction with this, the Defense should limit the opposing offenses scoring.

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    • Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
      I think that in conjunction with this, the Defense should limit the opposing offenses scoring.
      16-0 baby!
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • Tex, if 100 people were to tell you that fire can burn you, you would not believe them without putting your hand in an open flame.

        Another thing, it does not give me a thrill if Wisconsin or Ohio State or even Texas goes to a bowl game. I mostly watch college players and not teams.

        Woody Hayes did a bad thing, but he did know how to win football games and so did Bear Bryant. Yes times do change, but good fundamental football still requires blocking, running, and tackling. The offensive/defensive systems do change, but if your opponent knows what you are going to do, then it's time to make a change as GB has done. As for ignoring a running game, you can't convince them of that in New Orleans or New York (Giants and Jets), or with the Cowboys either (In spite of what Jerry may be saying).

        Many GB fans would want to bang the big drum if Aaron Jones gets hot like Lacy or Levens or Green did in years past. The Bandwagon would need help moving if Jones or Jones and Williams were to get hot this season.

        Last, most teams have moved toward defensive personal better suited to stop the pass. While there is nothing wrong with that, some have gotten weak on stopping the run. A fully balanced offense can take advantage of that weakness. It may be a defensive player who can cover a pass, but has problems taking down a muscular RB charging at him at full speed or a LB that is poor at changing direction when a RB he's trying to tackle does. The point is that RBs can still move the sticks and protect the ball better than most.
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        • Really good discussion in here. Holy shit. Regular season almost upon us!
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • Another thing about running the ball regularly is the guys up front keep developing cohesion and consistency through application and experience. It’s an investment through the season that leads to unpredictability and adaptability in the post season.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • Originally posted by Radagast View Post
              bobblehead, please keep explaining the game of football and someday more will listen. Yes it will be a long hard row to hoe, but if the light goes on for even a few, then the journey will be worth the struggle.

              You say," Throw me to the Wolves and I'll return leading the Pack." I believe that if they threw you to the wolves that you would return with Wolf pelts.


              What do you think he explained, exactly? In your own words.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                Another thing about running the ball regularly is the guys up front keep developing cohesion and consistency through application and experience. It’s an investment through the season that leads to unpredictability and adaptability in the post season.
                Sure, either that or in the second half, teams with leads run and teams that trail substantially pass.

                Could be either. 11th dimension chess with workplace behavioral studies or the score of the game.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • 93 plays in the game and the important ones were the earlier season games in which there were almost equal number of running plays.

                  You could do a lot worse in learning from Belichick by looking at those 93 plays and concluding that doing what works in the situation is better than any prescribed philosophy or play calling mix.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    What do you think he explained, exactly? In your own words.
                    lol
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • An earlier post talked about how Belicheck/Brady and Co. make adjustments to take advantage of game situations. I knew and likely posted on another site that for the LA Rams to beat the Brady/Belicheck connection in the SB, that the Rams would have to attack Brady on every play. Sack him, chase him, bat down his throws, and generally make day miserable. You might ask how would I know this? Well on the rare occasion that the Patriots lose, Brady was hurried and under siege All Game Long. What team/s you might ask, the Steelers for one and also I believe the Broncos as well.

                      During the last SB I literally screamed at the screen as Brady calmly picked the Rams apart. Harassing Brady should be the #1 priority for teams that play NE, but even fotball professionals can be hard headed too. My point here is that just as defenses can take advantage of an offene/s. The same is also true of offenses as well. Some teams are easier to run against and some are more vulnerable to the pass. Sometimes it's as easy as a mismatch like a 6'5" tall TE on a 5'10" CB or Safety. Another could find a less experienced player filling in for an injured starter. If that injured starter is an OLB or perhaps a defensive lineman, then attacking that discovered weakness with solid running makes sense.

                      Being behind late in any game means being under the gun to catch up. At that point running plays don't make much sense and passing is required on every play. However, if your leading and want to eat clock and retain possession of the ball, a running attack is most appreciated.

                      McCarthy leaned to heavily on Rodgers and his skills to win games for him. LaFleur does not seem to be inclined to follow the same path. I look forward to a better running attack that benefits the Packers in more than just one way. It will take some time for LaFleur's system to get better with the players that will use it, but good things sometimes require a bit of work before they bare fruit.
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                      • Originally posted by Radagast View Post
                        Tex, if 100 people were to tell you that fire can burn you, you would not believe them without putting your hand in an open flame.

                        Another thing, it does not give me a thrill if Wisconsin or Ohio State or even Texas goes to a bowl game. I mostly watch college players and not teams.

                        Woody Hayes did a bad thing, but he did know how to win football games and so did Bear Bryant. Yes times do change, but good fundamental football still requires blocking, running, and tackling. The offensive/defensive systems do change, but if your opponent knows what you are going to do, then it's time to make a change as GB has done. As for ignoring a running game, you can't convince them of that in New Orleans or New York (Giants and Jets), or with the Cowboys either (In spite of what Jerry may be saying).

                        Many GB fans would want to bang the big drum if Aaron Jones gets hot like Lacy or Levens or Green did in years past. The Bandwagon would need help moving if Jones or Jones and Williams were to get hot this season.

                        Last, most teams have moved toward defensive personal better suited to stop the pass. While there is nothing wrong with that, some have gotten weak on stopping the run. A fully balanced offense can take advantage of that weakness. It may be a defensive player who can cover a pass, but has problems taking down a muscular RB charging at him at full speed or a LB that is poor at changing direction when a RB he's trying to tackle does. The point is that RBs can still move the sticks and protect the ball better than most.
                        Radagast, I can see you're more out of it regarding college football even than you are about the NFL.

                        Did anybody say anything about ignoring the running game? Use it as a change of pace! That's the intelligent way to go, given the Packers personnel.

                        You want to claim defenses are more geared to stopping passing these days? Ya think? Could be that has something to do with the fact that teams are passing more hahahahaha. The more relevant thing is that rule changes are probably more slanted toward giving advantages to the passing game. Neither of those is the primary thing, though. It's mainly about personnel.

                        What you just can't seem to comprehend is that Jones and the others are a helluva lot more likely to "get hot" with occasional change of pace runs, screens, and other receptions out of the backfield than they are running into the back peddling asses of our O Linemen who can't seem to open decent holes.

                        This is going to be a great season for the Packers - offense and defense both. It will be comical to see some of ya'all get dragged kicking and screaming to the reality of what brings the success.
                        What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                        • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                          16-0 baby!
                          Its august baby and I can't imagine it NOT happening!!!
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            What do you think he explained, exactly? In your own words.
                            You know. Like..... stuff. Because, well........ reasons.

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                            • Originally posted by Radagast View Post
                              AWell on the rare occasion that the Patriots lose, Brady was hurried and under siege All Game Long. What team/s you might ask, the Steelers for one and also I believe the Broncos as well.

                              During the last SB I literally screamed at the screen as Brady calmly picked the Rams apart. Harassing Brady should be the #1 priority for teams that play NE, but even fotball professionals can be hard headed too. .
                              You need to get on the horn to all the Patriots' opponents this season and let them know they need to get after the QB. It's possible this essential football method is unknown to them. Don't let their hard-headedness deter you! I would literally scream at them.
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                                You know. Like..... stuff. Because, well........ reasons.
                                Let me tell you about this other site I visited about a completely unrelated topic.
                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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