It is hard for me to see how this team will ever get to another SB with this regime

[Smidgeon]

I really thought I was forever done posting here, [snip]

Back into hiding now. Carry on.

No! Don't go!

[woodbuck27]

Would love to hear your thoughts.

Hello RonWolfGOAT........Welcome to Packerrats and thanks for expressing a strong view.

I agree that we're in deep trouble and Leadership......The GM and HC etc. leave much to be desired. It gets a bit this way at the end of most seasons before /after the last Super Bowl Victory but this time the scream of I'm falling and HELP !! and GREEN BAY PACKERS is LOUD !!

Your post omitted any view on the Packers Scout Team.

I personally don't think highly of the Green Bay Packer Scout Team ( Given how many drafted busts we see). Ted Thompson cannot be everywhere and he has to hold all members of that team to a high level of results and integrity.

Your thread and the content....focus..is rather Tankesque in style. I sure hope/TRUST your REAL and uniquely your own person.

In other words......YOUR anyone..... NOT TANK !

Some background:

Going way back to what 2006 !?

Tank and I shared the fact....we wern't pissing our pants HOLDING for Ted Thompson as some genius; when in fact he acted overall like part of the cast of walkers in 'The Walking Dead'.

TANK .....an infamous former member.....in my rear view mirror.....had penchant for self destruction:

He came he saw ...he expressed himself. He did his thing and as he was judged.... he did bad things according to some who RULED with a more powerful status and thus support here. I saw TANK as rather charming compared to some posters past and present.....who's sole motivation and participation here: was/is to shit all over themselves and the privilege of Packerrats. You may have run into the sort.....Such are easily identified with their ignorance, lousy manners and when you do some minor analysis of their posting personality...very low self esteem.

You may learn of what I'm posting here in short order. Your thread in the past would draw the most extreme ire of the POWER GROUP that was ' all in ' and TT & MM and Co. They came at/onto you if you criticized TT and /or MM in numbers....like 'ants to sugar' that bunch were all over you ...nasty whips a stinging. Good grief...what we're they standing in for Vs another's view / needs as the Packer fan.

It's really just a joke to me now.

These days....the charge is 'pop gun' compared to when several here had a mob mentality and attacked with teeth and snarls .... think ....piranha. They may end up A-OK.

I pray for them.

Again Congratulations on your thread and I TRUST the response to it will be a reward for us all.

Enjoy Packerrats RonWolfGOAT.

[woodbuck27]

I really thought I was forever done posting here, then I read this. It took me 20 minutes to get my password reset, during which I pretty much calmed down, but here goes. Yes, I complained mightly about the offensive line - because it stunk.

But if you keep my comments in context, they were at a time when Allen Barbre was starting at right tackle, and he was a 7th round pick, and Daryn Colledge was a Left Guard and he was worse than the diet pepsi machine. I wanted, as you may recall, for him to be moved to left tackle, as he had some early success when Clifton was hurt. Then they finally moved him there and he resembled Lombardi's statute there, and I gave up and suggested that he be banished to managing a Dairy Queen in his home town...

Once Thompson finally dedicated some decent draft picks to the line, I did stop complaining. I'm still not happy with the line, but that has nothing to do with Thompson and everything to do with the fact that they either can't protect the quarterback until game 8, or, they are always hurt (Bulaga...).

Back into hiding now. Carry on.

Hey my Good Packerrat Bud...HELLO and I TRUST that all is great with you man.

Peace Out !

My name is Ed. woodbuck27

[woodbuck27]

Let's not forget Vince here:

Lombardi:

10 years
5 NFL titles
2 SB wins
2 SB appearances
9-1 playoff record

No wonder I'm so spoiled.

[mraynrand]

Dude, how are ya? That's some serious lurking there, to wait - what, 5 years - but still capture conversation about yourself? I didn't think packerrats had an RSS-like feed.

Stick around, the conversation here is pretty good.

[woodbuck27]

Dude, how are ya? That's some serious lurking there, to wait - what, 5 years - but still capture conversation about yourself? I didn't think packerrats had an RSS-like feed.

Stick around, the conversation here is pretty good.

WOW ! A New Year's Resolution ?

You seem normal/decent.

I've seen this feint before...... many times.



Retailguy....I enjoyed that member.

[Bossman641]

A RetailGuy sighting....what year is this? Stick around RG

[pbmax]

I really thought I was forever done posting here, then I read this. It took me 20 minutes to get my password reset, during which I pretty much calmed down, but here goes. Yes, I complained mightly about the offensive line - because it stunk.

But if you keep my comments in context, they were at a time when Allen Barbre was starting at right tackle, and he was a 7th round pick, and Daryn Colledge was a Left Guard and he was worse than the diet pepsi machine. I wanted, as you may recall, for him to be moved to left tackle, as he had some early success when Clifton was hurt. Then they finally moved him there and he resembled Lombardi's statute there, and I gave up and suggested that he be banished to managing a Dairy Queen in his home town...

Once Thompson finally dedicated some decent draft picks to the line, I did stop complaining. I'm still not happy with the line, but that has nothing to do with Thompson and everything to do with the fact that they either can't protect the quarterback until game 8, or, they are always hurt (Bulaga...).

Back into hiding now. Carry on.

There was too much history and too much forgetting to get that short summary entirely in context; glad you came back to give your side.

It was a mess, but O line is one position, like ILB now, that the Packers can't hit like they do on WR or cornerbacks. Or quarterbacks.

[pbmax]

Wait, if RG was lurking, does that mean that every other tired or pissed off former poster is among the 75 people lurking every day?

I thought they all were Google Bots.

[Bretsky]

Peppers, Guion, Kuhn and James Jones

OK; makes sense. I was separating them from unrestricted free agents that were actually signed during the free market free agency period because they were sought after versus a guy like James Jones who got his ass cut. I'm not sure I consider Kuhn or Jones starters.

I can't even remember how we signed Kuhn. Was he a real free agent signing or a guy like Jones who could not make another team so we took a flyer on him ?

[Bretsky]

Let's all be honest here, prime time FA very, very, very rarely get to the market. With the current salary cap and the better management of teams the best players are almost always locked up before they get to FA.

The FA that teams are fighting for are for what I call "2nd tier" players. Guys who will start and play solid but they are not going to be your Superstars. The Reggie Whites of the world don't hit the FA market any more except on the back end of their career when they aren't producing to justify their salary.

A good example of this for this year seems to be Mario Williams. Former #1 pick making $19M that the Bills are probably going to have to dump. He will hit the market but what team is going to pony up the 8-12+M per year for him. It will be a risk that signing him and moving him back to a 3-4 team will rejuvenate his career. No team has $10M in salary cap money to just throw away.

Pretty much agree with this; and I rarely would be a fan of getting a top tier guy. But there are Captain obvious years to go get a free agent....aka.....Tight End last year. How would Delanie Walker, Charles CLay, or Jordan Cameron looked in Green n Gold ?

[pbmax]

OK; makes sense. I was separating them from unrestricted free agents that were actually signed during the free market free agency period because they were sought after versus a guy like James Jones who got his ass cut. I'm not sure I consider Kuhn or Jones starters.

I can't even remember how we signed Kuhn. Was he a real free agent signing or a guy like Jones who could not make another team so we took a flyer on him ?

Got him after his second go around with the Steelers. Street free agent.

[Bretsky]

Got him after his second go around with the Steelers. Street free agent.

so his ass was cut and we claimed him or just James Jones'd him ? Those should not count !

[Patler]

so his ass was cut and we claimed him or just James Jones'd him ? Those should not count !

Julius Peppers was cut too. He wasn't a free agent because of an expired contract. So he doesn't count either? What's the difference how the player becomes available? A free agent is a free agent.

[Bretsky]

Julius Peppers was cut too. He wasn't a free agent because of an expired contract. So he doesn't count either? What's the difference how the player becomes available? A free agent is a free agent.

Peppers was cut due to salary cap and we signed ahead of the season starting; Jones seems more like a waiver wire claim than a unrestricted free agent. I don't know how to categorize Kuhn cause I don't remember .

I know they are all free agents so by definition you are right.

But my whineage has to do with the GB's typical hibernation specifically during the URFA signing period when teams are competing or sought after players who are going to make a roster as opposed to signing them who we claim after they get cut during the preseason.