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  • THE COLLAPSE OF THE OFFENSE--WHO IS AT FAULT ????

    Thoughts ????
    26
    TED THOMPSON
    0%
    3
    AARON RODGERS
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    7
    MIKE MCCARTHY
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    13
    I don't have the courage to take a stance and am selecting this answer since a poll needs 4 options
    0%
    3
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

  • #2
    I am interested in seeing results. Obviously everybody has contributed. But who is most to blame for the offensive meltdown ?
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #3
      How about Poll Option 5:

      ° I did not know I could change the default 4 answers to 2?


      The answer to this question is that it ultimately falls to M3, though he did not have a direct hand in each piece that failed.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #4
        Easy...Mike McCarthy takes it on the shnob for this awful years 'O'.

        I never warmed up to his style.

        I do believe he's a very decent man. He simply cannot manage 'the BIG GAME' on the sidelines without looking like he needs another nerve pill and what must that poor man's stomach be like!?

        He's just not cool enough. He always looks well..............like the loser.
        ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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        • #5
          FYI.....I stile this poll from ESPN 1070.....they had a majority voting in one direction.........I think it will be more balanced here.
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #6
            Rodgers simply hasn't been himself this year. Scared at the end of the Carolina game? On the last play? Did you see the redzone INT this past week when Jones had the entire front corner of the endzone to work with and was breaking to the pylon where he was wide open? Rodgers has not been his usual self this year and his accuracy and decision making has shown it.

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            • #7
              I'm inclined to thank the changes on the offensive coaching staff simply did not work. So that's on MM.

              I'd blame Olivia Munn if that were an option.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #8
                Comes down to MM, he's the HC and responsibility falls on him.
                All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                • #9
                  I said earlier the coaching staff but I've changed my mind. Rodgers makes millions more per year - millions! - than anyone else on the team. You make that kind of money because you come as close as any single player can to putting the team on your back and carrying them. This is both about skill and leadership, and to my mind, he has been mediocre in the former and has failed in the latter. No, we don't know what goes on behind closed doors, and yes he was elected offensive captain, but all the eye-rolling and disgusted looks and arms-in-the-air stuff suggests anything but leadership. And there have been many many dropped balls, but there have also been many errant passes.

                  He plays the most important position, makes the most money, and is supposed to be the leader of this team. It's on a lot of people, but most of all on him. Instead of steady confidence or fiery enthusiasm, he displays a kind of disdain and distance that is not helping at all. And his stats are mediocre, too.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #10
                    I'dm like to change my vote that it's on MM to >>> it's on TT.

                    TT is ultimately responsible for the overall operation of the team and any personnel issues.

                    TT has to ensure that MM has the depth of talent that the team's HC will be effectively able to win with.

                    Too often TT has his head in the sand and too often we 'as a forum' should have be in accord and seeing 'just that'.

                    TT's always suffered that affliction and it's a huge flaw; a drawback to ever having a team (The GREEN BAY PACKERS) be totally ready Vs the TOP NFL teams.
                    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                    ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bretsky
                      Thoughts ????
                      Occasionally, but you wouldn't be interested.

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                      • #12
                        Count me as another write in for Olivia Ono.

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                        • #13
                          It's a combination of MM and TT first and foremost... player procurement and offensive philosophy in general.

                          Our best WR is Jordy, who is 6'3", 217 lbs... why TT doesn't target more WR's like him is beyond me. Cobb is a midget; James Jones has some size, but is limited athletically and not a great route runner; and Adams is more a clone of Jones than Jordy; Abredaris is slight of build and limited... none of those guys can get off press coverage.

                          The run blocking is all about influence and lateral movement. Not a single road grader in the bunch, and MM seldom calls any power plays. Very little pulling, no trapping... it's passive, passive, passive.

                          TT has ignored the TE spot for the most part - and won't admit when he's missed on players. Rodgers is not the answer in any way, shape, or form. He's got some size and good hands, but his feet are stuck in cement. None of the other TE's can threaten the seam and keep the safeties honest either. The position is a mess.

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                          The foregoing issues have led to a serious decline in Rodgers's play... he looks scared back there, rarely throws on time b/c no one is getting open on their initial route, and when the protection breaks down - which it does on almost every play - he scrambles into the open, but isn't seeing the field well, perhaps a function of his playing scared??

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                          Add it all up, and the whole thing is a mess.

                          Worse, TT and MM will not - cannot - change their approach. I fear we're stuck in a rut now that will not end as long as this regime is in place.

                          We scammed that one SB in '10, but my fears of our team becoming a perennial playoff team without the cajones to win it all seem to be our reality.
                          wist

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                          • #14
                            Here's a pretty good article and commentary on CBSSportsline...




                            "In the past two games, against playoff teams in the Arizona Cardinals and Minnesota Vikings, Rodgers was sacked 13 times, lost three fumbles, two for touchdowns, and was picked off twice.

                            The Packers have four touchdowns in the past three games. That used to be a game's worth when the offense was rolling."

                            OUCH!!!
                            wist

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                            • #15
                              I've got to say MM by process of elimination.

                              Ted seems to have done very well in the draft. And we were all LOVING him for the James Jones move after Jordy's injury.

                              Rodgers had a down year but was still the best player on the team. With such obvious failings from those around him its hard to pin him as the weak link.

                              MM is the most culpable IMO. Right from the beginning when Lacy and Datone Jones missed their weight marks this team was in a hole. We had a number of regressions in performance from players on both sides of the ball and this is his responsibility. At times we've been completely noncompetitive on offense. MM all the way.
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