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  • #76
    It's official.
    C.H.U.D.

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    • #77
      It's hard to make too big an argument either way since we have the benefit of hindsight. The general thought is you play for the win on the road/OT at home, or play for the win when you have the weaker team.

      I wonder if MM would have gone for the win if there wasn't such a long review process...catch them while they are still shell-shocked.
      Go PACK

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Pugger View Post
        Where is the confidence in this juggernaut offense? You all assume we make the 2 pointer. An extra point with Crosby is a surer thing than going for 2 IMO.
        There isn't, which is precisely why you go for two. To win in OT you have to sustain a drive, or expect your defense to score or at least get a turnover deep enough that the O doesn't have to sustain a drive before kicking a FG.

        From the time they took possession, I said TD and two-point, forget OT.

        Not unlike the Ice Bowl. 3rd down, 16 seconds, no time outs. They chose to run, which was a win or lose play. Score and you win. Fail to score and the clock runs out. They could have kicked a FG on 3rd down for the tie, or tried a pass on third and kicked the FG if incomplete. They decided to put it all on being better for one play than Dallas was. The two point conversion would have been the same situation.

        Play to win, don't play so as not to lose, especially on the road with a team with no offense.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          There isn't, which is precisely why you go for two. To win in OT you have to sustain a drive, or expect your defense to score or at least get a turnover deep enough that the O doesn't have to sustain a drive before kicking a FG.

          From the time they took possession, I said TD and two-point, forget OT.

          Not unlike the Ice Bowl. 3rd down, 16 seconds, no time outs. They chose to run, which was a win or lose play. Score and you win. Fail to score and the clock runs out. They could have kicked a FG on 3rd down for the tie, or tried a pass on third and kicked the FG if incomplete. They decided to put it all on being better for one play than Dallas was. The two point conversion would have been the same situation.

          Play to win, don't play so as not to lose, especially on the road with a team with no offense.
          Great comparison, Patler. I should have thought of it. As has been stated earlier, championships turn on these sort of events. If Lombardi had not scored on that play, his reputation and that of the Packers might have been eclipsed for all time by Landry and the Cowboys.
          One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
          John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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          • #80
            Maybe MM would have gone for 2 if the temperature was 13 below.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #81
              ^LOL
              One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
              John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                Great comparison, Patler. I should have thought of it. As has been stated earlier, championships turn on these sort of events. If Lombardi had not scored on that play, his reputation and that of the Packers might have been eclipsed for all time by Landry and the Cowboys.
                well, it was that play and the Meredith INT the year before.
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #83
                  MM and Coord PC's starting at 5:00. http://www.packers.com/media-center/live-webcasts.html
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #84
                    is he leaving????????????

                    if not, yawn

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                    • #85
                      great fucking audio

                      you can barely hear him

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                      • #86
                        "structure was part of the failure on offense"

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                        • #87
                          - On 2 point conversion, he decided against it. Was aware analytics would recommend it considering the game at the start of the game. But felt that good performance from D and backups at WR on O meant it was a better option to kick the PAT.

                          - M3 is keeping play calling next year

                          - Fully anticipates Clements being back

                          - I missed the discussion of dedicated WR coach (see red's comment above about structure)

                          - He's not buying the close losses in playoffs add up to a consistent problem

                          - Acknowledges difficulties at home esp. Division games
                          Last edited by pbmax; 01-18-2016, 05:13 PM.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            - On 2 point conversion, he decided against it. Was aware analytics would recommend it considering the game at the start of the game. But felt that good performance from D and backups at WR on O meant it was a better option to kick the PAT.

                            - M3 is keeping play calling next year

                            - Fully anticipates Clements being back

                            - I missed the discussion of dedicated WR coach (see red's comment above about structure)
                            hw said it something that will begin being discussed on wednesday when they do the end of the season interviews with the coaches

                            sounds like he knows the changes they made last year really fucked things up

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                            • #89
                              - Says Eddie Lacy did not have a successful offseason and he never caught back up

                              - Says he liked some of the changes they made to offend (start of season) without Jordy but doesn't think they did enough to help injured players OR players facing a difficult matchup with the game plan

                              - Unless the rest of the Packer public, McCarthy thought Janis had a bad pre-season. Had a meeting with just him at some point. Thought he really rallied on ST and learned from his mistakes toward the end of the season. Thought Janis laid everything on the line in AZ game between O snaps and special teams, was really gassed at the end of the game. Thought the Hail Mary was a testament to his dedication to helping the team.
                              Last edited by pbmax; 01-18-2016, 05:33 PM.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #90
                                MM: He (Lacy) can not play at the weight he was at this year.
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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