More Banjo: Division Playoffs @ Cardinals

[wpony]

I found this on BoydsBets that overall percentage of I think its college and pro? any way its of the last 997 attempts
passing was 61 percent
running was 43.4 Percent
percent total 48.2
maybe with out all our receivers he was afraid they would drop it if they passed it and there line was getting so tired out he was hopping that during half time they got alittle rest so they could try running again there line was looking exhausted.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Stubby:

You always consider all your options. It was definitely an option. Not the right option. I understand how analytics plays in game management . You also have to look at the flow. The way our defense was playing, I had great confidence in them stopping the Cardinals. With our receivers and the 2-point plays we had I wasn't sure about that.

He "wasn't sure" his inexperienced receivers could make a play from the two yard line but, apparently, he was sure they could make a bunch of plays starting at their own 20 in OT!!! And, the moron went into the playoff game without a 2-point play suited to the personnel playing in the game!!!

This is pure CYO BS! I wasn't on the Fire Stubby bandwagon but I'm about to climb on. I said before Stubby has "play it safe...play not to lose" in his DNA. This confirms it IMO.

Pathetic.

[Smidgeon]

The concern was their knowledge on the two point conversion subpackages. The regular offense, the one they would run from the 20, they were still making mistakes on. No surprise to me he called it inexperience.

[Patler]

The concern was their knowledge on the two point conversion subpackages. The regular offense, the one they would run from the 20, they were still making mistakes on. No surprise to me he called it inexperience.

If that is true, (and I do believe that it is true) in the 2nd playoff game, after 6 weeks of camp, 4 preseason games, 17 weeks of the regular season, 16 regular season games, 2 weeks of playoff practices and nearly two playoff games, it is kind of poor coaching, especially since they knew they would be without Adams this week. What if they needed two points just to tie?

[Maxie the Taxi]

If that is true, (and I do believe that it is true) in the 2nd playoff game, after 6 weeks of camp, 4 preseason games, 17 weeks of the regular season, 16 regular season games, 2 weeks of playoff practices and nearly two playoff games, it is kind of poor coaching, especially since they knew they would be without Adams this week. What if they needed two points just to tie?

Exactly! It's like you said, poor coaching, or like I said, CYO BS.

[Freak Out]

Having the guts, and trust in the players you coach is why we remember guys like Lombardi....and why we will forget guys like Stubby in 50 years.

[mraynrand]

Having the guts, and trust in the players you coach is why we remember guys like Lombardi....and why we will forget guys like Stubby in 50 years.

I don't think we'll forget Stubby in 50. I won't recall him, because I'll be dead.

Anyway, his thinking was totally reasonable.

Still, I would have liked to see them put the heavy Raji package out there with Kuhn and Lacy and maybe even Rip in the backfield, play fake it and then have Rodgers run it around the end. Or if they call timeout, then put Janis, Abby, Jones, Perillo, and Rodgers split wide, and let ARod decide whether to throw or run it.

I just liked their odds better on the one play from 2 yards away versus the way they were moving the ball and the fact that the defense was getting tired and the refs were clearly against them, intentionally or not.

[esoxx]

MM is a pussy.

In my view, he was more of a pussy in last year's NFC Championship Game when he kicked two dink FG's and then in the 4th quarter ground the offense to a conservative halt, including running in to a stacked eight man front towards the end instead of playing for the first down which equals winning. Pssst Stubby, you have Aaron Rodgers. Maybe let him make a play and decide the outcome instead of our defense!!!

[pbmax]

Having the guts, and trust in the players you coach is why we remember guys like Lombardi....and why we will forget guys like Stubby in 50 years.

I think he is mostly remembered because his calls worked. His genius would be under appreciated if he only captured two titles and one Super Bowl.

[woodbuck27]

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[Pugger]

Stubby:


He "wasn't sure" his inexperienced receivers could make a play from the two yard line but, apparently, he was sure they could make a bunch of plays starting at their own 20 in OT!!! And, the moron went into the playoff game without a 2-point play suited to the personnel playing in the game!!!

This is pure CYO BS! I wasn't on the Fire Stubby bandwagon but I'm about to climb on. I said before Stubby has "play it safe...play not to lose" in his DNA. This confirms it IMO.

Pathetic.

With a 2 point play you get one shot. I seriously doubt they practiced 2 point conversions with Janis. Rodgers said after the game whenever they worked on 2 pointers they had JJ and Cobb practice them.

[Pugger]

If that is true, (and I do believe that it is true) in the 2nd playoff game, after 6 weeks of camp, 4 preseason games, 17 weeks of the regular season, 16 regular season games, 2 weeks of playoff practices and nearly two playoff games, it is kind of poor coaching, especially since they knew they would be without Adams this week. What if they needed two points just to tie?

It was more like poor preparation - they didn't foresee losing Cobb for most of the game.

[Pugger]

Having the guts, and trust in the players you coach is why we remember guys like Lombardi....and why we will forget guys like Stubby in 50 years.

Most rank McCarthy as the 4th best HC in franchise history behind Holmgren, Curly and Vince in that order. I don't think Mike is gonna be forgotten. Sorry about that.

[Fritz]

With a 2 point play you get one shot. I seriously doubt they practiced 2 point conversions with Janis. Rodgers said after the game whenever they worked on 2 pointers they had JJ and Cobb practice them.

Hmmm....didn't Abbrederis recently catch a two-point conversion, in which he cut sharply over the middle and caught it in the end zone, or was that a touchdown? Couldn't you run that play?

I see MM's point, but I still think after a whole season you'd have to have Janis or Abby prepped for a goal-line play. My preference would have been to put a tight end out there on the right side, Kuhn and Lacey in the backfield, Rodgers under center. Everybody pulls right, Rodgers fakes handoff to Lacey, turns and goes left. Then he can run or pass.

And wasn't there an inside pitch to Lacey earlier this year? You line up with Lacey in the backfield, Rodgers in the pistol, and everyone else spread out? Rodgers looks to pass, Lacey goes up to the middle of the line like he's blocking, Rodgers pitches it to him.

I don't understand MM's confidence in what clearly seemed a gassed defense. They'd given up ten points pretty quickly.

I don't get it. The defense looked tired; the offense looked sputtering again. You have the ball a couple yards from the goal line, in the hands of your best player.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Hmmm....didn't Abbrederis recently catch a two-point conversion, in which he cut sharply over the middle and caught it in the end zone, or was that a touchdown? Couldn't you run that play?

I see MM's point, but I still think after a whole season you'd have to have Janis or Abby prepped for a goal-line play. My preference would have been to put a tight end out there on the right side, Kuhn and Lacey in the backfield, Rodgers under center. Everybody pulls right, Rodgers fakes handoff to Lacey, turns and goes left. Then he can run or pass.

And wasn't there an inside pitch to Lacey earlier this year? You line up with Lacey in the backfield, Rodgers in the pistol, and everyone else spread out? Rodgers looks to pass, Lacey goes up to the middle of the line like he's blocking, Rodgers pitches it to him.

I don't understand MM's confidence in what clearly seemed a gassed defense. They'd given up ten points pretty quickly.

I don't get it. The defense looked tired; the offense looked sputtering again. You have the ball a couple yards from the goal line, in the hands of your best player.

Yup, I agree, but in addition, u have to ride the big MO. They had just completed two insane miracle passes, the team had to be riding pretty high at that point, and the cards had to be devastated, it was time to go for the juggler. I think MM knows this, and he will learn from it.