More Banjo: Division Playoffs @ Cardinals

[mraynrand]

Hmmm....didn't Abbrederis recently catch a two-point conversion, in which he cut sharply over the middle and caught it in the end zone, or was that a touchdown? Couldn't you run that play?

I see MM's point, but I still think after a whole season you'd have to have Janis or Abby prepped for a goal-line play. My preference would have been to put a tight end out there on the right side, Kuhn and Lacey in the backfield, Rodgers under center. Everybody pulls right, Rodgers fakes handoff to Lacey, turns and goes left. Then he can run or pass.

And wasn't there an inside pitch to Lacey earlier this year? You line up with Lacey in the backfield, Rodgers in the pistol, and everyone else spread out? Rodgers looks to pass, Lacey goes up to the middle of the line like he's blocking, Rodgers pitches it to him.

I don't understand MM's confidence in what clearly seemed a gassed defense. They'd given up ten points pretty quickly.

I don't get it. The defense looked tired; the offense looked sputtering again. You have the ball a couple yards from the goal line, in the hands of your best player.

I agree with everything you say, except that I don't want Daniels under center.

[Patler]

It was more like poor preparation - they didn't foresee losing Cobb for most of the game.

If they didn't, they should have. I have never been around a successful coach at upper levels who didn't have contingency plans. Players get injured, it's a given. If the plan called for Cobb and Jones, someone should have been ready because both have been limited at times this year because of injuries and any player is a simple rolled ankle away from being out of the game. Someone should have been ready just in case Cobb was out and it came down to a two point conversion needed for a TIE, in which case they would have had to go for it.

[Fritz]

We keep hearing about how Abbrederis is, like Cobb, a slot guy. Why wasn't he prepped for that type of play?

[Pugger]

If they didn't, they should have. I have never been around a successful coach at upper levels who didn't have contingency plans. Players get injured, it's a given. If the plan called for Cobb and Jones, someone should have been ready because both have been limited at times this year because of injuries and any player is a simple rolled ankle away from being out of the game. Someone should have been ready just in case Cobb was out and it came down to a two point conversion needed for a TIE, in which case they would have had to go for it.

Perhaps they didn't anticipate James Jones being completely ineffective in that game? JJ could have been their contingency plan.

[Patler]

Perhaps they didn't anticipate James Jones being completely ineffective in that game? JJ could have been their contingency plan.

I thought he was part of the original plan. Didn't someone say they practiced with Jones and Cobb at WR for 2 point conversions?

[Patler]

Hmmm....didn't Abbrederis recently catch a two-point conversion, in which he cut sharply over the middle and caught it in the end zone, or was that a touchdown? Couldn't you run that play?

Abbrederis got the 2 point conversion against Washington. Here is a video:

http://www.highlighthub.com/jared-ab...version-video/

http://www.highlighthub.com/jared-abbrederis-shake-n-bake-2-pt-conversion-video/

In this game, all Janis did was come through time and time again, yet MM still hesitated to use him? But would he even have had to? No shortyardage package without 3 WRs?

[mraynrand]

Perhaps they didn't anticipate James Jones being completely ineffective in that game? JJ could have been their contingency plan.

In some ways, I thought they kinda lucked out having Peterson cover Jones. That took away AZ's best db to cover the Packers slowest WR. I know he's Rodger's security blanket, but the reality is that he's a worn out retread. AZ probably ended up, overall, doing the Packers a favor wasting Peterman on Jones.

[mraynrand]

Abbrederis got the 2 point conversion against Washington. Here is a video:

http://www.highlighthub.com/jared-ab...version-video/

In this game, all Janis did was come through time and time again, yet MM still hesitated to use him? But would he even have had to? No shortyardage package without 3 WRs?

Rodgers proved in the Lions game that he can't throw an accurate ball to an athletic WR on a two point conversion (Adams). Had they targeted Janis on a corner route, Rodgers probably under throws him, or gets 'scared' like at Carolina. The Problem is obviously Rodgers - he's used to and more comfortable with slow ineffective WRs who can't get open like Jones and Cobb.

[pbmax]

My money is that Janis wasn't up to speed on 2 point plays, if indeed that was the actual reason they didn't do it. They knew Abby was starting as #3 slot guy all week.

[mraynrand]

My money is that Janis wasn't up to speed on 2 point plays, if indeed that was the actual reason they didn't do it. They new Abby was starting as #3 slot guy all week.

I just think Stubby never really considered the 2 pointer. Is there even an example of anyone voluntarily going for a 2 pointer to win in the NFL in recent memory - with something important on the line? Doubt it.

Janis held up pretty well on the previous three targets - interfered with on one , and 100 yards of offense on the other two.

[pbmax]

I just think Stubby never really considered the 2 pointer. Is there even an example of anyone voluntarily going for a 2 pointer to win in the NFL in recent memory - with something important on the line? Doubt it.

Janis held up pretty well on the previous three targets - interfered with on one , and 100 yards of offense on the other two.

This is probably true.

[woodbuck27]

For posterity I'll drop these game highlights here:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000625286/article/mccarthy-packers-struggled-to-adapt-without-jordy

[Freak Out]

Fuck Woody.....Fuck.

How in the hell did Rodgers throw that fucker 60 yards falling down?

Fuck you Stubby!

[pbmax]

Still not sure what he says here makes sense to me, especially the first paragraph:

"Philosophically to me, to have a successful passing game, you have to have big targets that can turn through the middle of the field, whether it's a tight end, whether it's a big receiver," McCarthy said, via the Green Bay Press-Gazette. "You look at the production of Jordy when he went inside, you look at the production when he was inside, now you're dictating to the defense what coverage they can play to you. When you don't have that element or the element to complement that, you see what we saw this year."

"If you really don't feel the threat down the field or a big-time threat on both sides, you're going to see three-deep, three-shell coverage and tight man-to-man," McCarthy said. "We're going to add that extra player to the box, to that run area, very quickly. Just look at the first play of the Arizona game. We're in a three-wide receiver set and they're in an eight-man front, which would be a nine-man front. ... That's the biggest commitment you can make to the run defensively. That's what we saw a large part of the season."

Mainly because it sounds like he is saying two different things and Jordy didn't spend much time in the slot.

[woodbuck27]

Fuck Woody.....Fuck.

How in the hell did Rodgers throw that fucker 60 yards falling down?

Fuck you Stubby!

That throw was in the sense you saw it a completely off balance and falling down amazing heave of the ball and wham....right in the right spot for Janis to get under.

I've watched it about 20 times. Aaron Rodgers is a very strong arm QB.

If they vcan get his head back on simply being the ALL TEAM Guy and taking advantage of what the game gives him.

Holy Hell Look Out Football World.

The Green Bay Packers will dominate.

If not.....Aaron's amazing talent and winning Super Bowls will go down as 'what if's'.

The number ONE priority this OFF SEASON. MM and ARod must get totally and for the whole season ...ON THE SAME PAGE.


GO PACK GO !