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On this page, there is an Official Review of both the coin flip and the Fitzgerald "catch". The explanation for the catch starts out making sense, until he gets to the details. And he should have left the Dez non-catch out of it.
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"Philosophically to me, to have a successful passing game, you have to have big targets that can turn through the middle of the field, whether it's a tight end, whether it's a big receiver," McCarthy said, via the Green Bay Press-Gazette. "You look at the production of Jordy when he went inside, you look at the production when he was inside, now you're dictating to the defense what coverage they can play to you. When you don't have that element or the element to complement that, you see what we saw this year." ...MM
"If you really don't feel the threat down the field or a big-time threat on both sides, you're going to see three-deep, three-shell coverage and tight man-to-man," McCarthy said. "We're going to add that extra player to the box, to that run area, very quickly. Just look at the first play of the Arizona game. We're in a three-wide receiver set and they're in an eight-man front, which would be a nine-man front. ... That's the biggest commitment you can make to the run defensively. That's what we saw a large part of the season." .... MM
My response:
Mike McCarthy and Excuses:
Excuses Na...Na...Na.......Naaaa ...naaaa ....Naaaaaa ...naaaaaa** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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I never thought about that but you are probably right. Was Peterson on Cobb before Randall got hurt?Originally posted by mraynrand View PostComment
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Nope. All on Jones. Probably smart too, being able to completely shut down one of Green Bay's primary options.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.Comment
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The most telling part of the article is this:Originally posted by pbmax View Post
Apparently, the problem with GB's offense was "evident" to everybody -- media, PackerRats, opposing defenses, MM and TT -- yet little to nothing was done to compensate. If a "big" WR was key, why didn't TT beat the bushes for one, in free agency or on Practice Squads around the league? Or why didn't MM invest all the time required to coach up the "big" athletic WR he had? Failing that, why didn't MM rework his offensive schemes and pass routes to compensate for Jordy's loss? Surely he's not arguing that a "big" WR going across the middle is the ONLY way to defeat defenses in the NFL today!Jordy Nelson's absence played a huge role in the Green Bay Packers' offensive struggles this season. It was evident from the team's bye week onward, when defenses played press coverage and stacked the box, knowing the slow-footed receiving corps couldn't gain separation.
The Packers didn't make excuses during the season. Nelson wasn't returning, so why lament his absence?
If I was the owner of the Green Bay Packers, I'd be looking for an "associate" coach who has new and different ideas about offensive scheming and route running. I'd insist MM hire him.
And if I were MM, I'd keep my damn mouth shut. Pathetic.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The NumbersComment
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Mike's bigger gaff was not having an individual WR coach to work with the big athletic WR he had. Having Van Pelt stretched too thin trying to coach 2 positions hurt both Aaron and the young WRs. We all saw how our passing game fell flat on its face. I'd keep Alex with the QBs - he was the QB coach last year when Aaron won the MVP - and appoint or hire a separate WR coach. Wasn't Edgar the WR coach last year?Comment
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Thank goodness some of us see this muddy situation so clearly.Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
Will the same BS continue next season?
I have hope it won't because I'm a positive guy. So much of that comes down to simply and totally HONEST Communication and a focused follow up for achieving the highest goal.
Nothing less than a Super Bowl.
So what will my positive optimism do to change MM and Arod and the relationship they have that certainly appears to be challenged in my view?
Nothing.
Those of us here that won't be blinded by the option of the Status Quo (and MM and TT) are the members of Packer Nation that will feel the most relief when Mike McCarthy is finally done as the Green Bay Packers Head Coach.
It's like how some Packer fans felt and feeling that Brett Favre as a Packer Starting QB had run it's course.
Funny how life so often gets rights here:
The problem with a different cast yet similar issues >>> One BAD ISSUE >>> Has grown to such a proportion that now....it's gone .... FUKLL CIRCLE.
Mike McCarthy isn't the answer and 'in fact' it's growing far worse.
Mike McCarthy has to soon be replaced with the BEST possible candidate a search for such will produce.
I see this needed move by those in POWER and the Green Bay Packers as a too obvious need for any 'REAL
HOPE' with Aaron Rodgers and another Super Bowl.
Otherwise this shout rings HOLLOW !
GO PACK GO !Last edited by woodbuck27; 01-21-2016, 10:19 AM.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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I hate to break it to you Woody, but McCarthy isn't going anyplace any time soon - unless the team goes to hell next season. IMO I was impressed with how McCarthy and this staff got this rag tag bunch playing this offseason. NOBODY gave us a chance in hell in AZ. Most thought we'd be blown out again. AZ got a few lucky breaks - the tipped pass for a TD and the coin toss - and they are moving on instead of us.
And just who would be a possible candidate to replace MM? And if we do clean house unless we find someone who runs the WCO our future HOF QB would have to learn an entirely new offense. By the time he gets good at it he'll be even older than he is now.Comment
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Guess what Pugger:Originally posted by Pugger View Post
Your guy is done already. It's just a matter of a short time before you see that as 'a fact'.
For the Packers to ever get a real chance to win:
MM has to be shown the door. It will be handled carefully out of some respect for Mike McCarthy.
Make no mistake about this. His act is worn out now.
He's soon............. to be replaced.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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\Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
You come up with a lot of whoppers, but this is probably top ten of your worst takes. Stubby has not only been competitive every year, but the team is competitive in probably 90-95% of games, and is only eclipsed in success during his run by Belichick. Guys like that write their own ticket.
Your best bet to get rid of Stubby is for him to have some kind of cardiac event."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - WoodbuckComment
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We'd be betting another Super Bowl Title with Aaron Rodgers under Center Pugger.Originally posted by Pugger View PostWanna bet?
A huge BET if you LOVE the Packers.
I LOVE the Green Bay Packers.
I love MM .......just not as the Packer HC.
PACKERS !** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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And then there's this:
It's like my national sales manager coming into my office to explain why sales (and profits) went south last year:McCarthy and the coaching staff also assume blame for not finding a way to get things quickly back on track when responding to injuries, including the loss of left tackle David Bakhtiari (ankle) during the final stretch of the regular season.
“If I was going to be critical of one of the things on offense that we didn’t do a good enough job of, we didn’t handle the injuries, let alone Jordy,” McCarthy said. “The left tackle, you have to help people at times in each and every season. It’s part of your game-planning, it’s part of your strategic makeup when you get into game planning and when we had uphill match ups, we didn’t do a good job helping that individual.”
"Well, boss, it was obvious that John, not our best salesman, needed help with closing that huge sale to Boeing. It's tough that we lost that one. It was our key account. We shouldn't have left him on his own out there.
"And, when the regional sales guy in New Jersey got sick and went out for the year, we probably should have went to plan B, you know, like modifying our sales territories and strategy to compensate, rather than try to do business as usual by replacing him with office interns and that guy we let go two years ago."
Of course, the first thing I'd do is kick my own ass for not paying attention to what was going on in my own company, but the next thing I'd do is decide whether the national sales manager understands his job, is worth rehabilitating or merits replacement.
The thing I wouldn't do is say: "It was a tough year. Sometimes the ball doesn't bounce your way. You did the best you could. You recognize that you made mistatkes. Next year the guy in New Jersey will be healthy and our sales people will be more experienced and more competent. Good job. See you this time next year. Here's your Christmas bonus."
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The NumbersComment
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^^^ I dunno, it's not a perfect analogy. But let's run with it anywayStubby can go and help the LT, but that leaves something else open. It's like moving your top sales guy from the Caterpillar account to the Boeing account. You might save the Boeing account (maybe not because the guy isn'e experienced there), but lose the Caterpillar account. Maybe that's like the Sitton move against MN.
The better move was to bring up the fresh faced kid a who is begging to make his mark (Tretter) rather than the recovering alcoholic sales guy who used to be great but hasn't landed an account in five years (Barclay).
But sometimes you don't have any guys in the bullpen and no guys just waiting at home for your call, like RBs waiting for Belichick to call."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - WoodbuckComment
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