Will Jeff Janis be a *thing* next year?

[texaspackerbacker]

After what Janis has shown pretty much every time he got a chance at WR, how can anybody see him as anything less than second only to a healthy Nelson? Of the seven total, Jones and/or Adams should be the first to go. Does Montgomery have anywhere near the speed or athleticism of Janis, not to even mention durability? I doubt it.

Speaking of TEs with speed, another apparently talented but barely used Packer is Backman. Add him to the list with Janis, Elliot, and Gunter.

[red]

When it comes down to it, if healthy, Cobb and Montgomery are relatively the same, with Montgomery being perhaps better from the backfield, and Cobb perhaps better in the open field. Abbrederis is the same WR as Cobb and Montgomery, not useful from the backfield, but perhaps the best route runner of the three. Cobb, Montgomery and Abbrederis is where the glut is among WRs. Barring injuries, you need two of the three.

and one of those guys will count 9.15 million against the cap while the other two are on cheap rookie deals

to me, adams is also a candidate to take a hike

and of course, like i said earlier, janis could be the odd man out and off the team next year

[Guiness]

I think they will keep all three. The question was asked who you would get rid of if you wanted to bring in someone new. I think Abbrederis would likely be the guy, not as valuable on ST as Janis, still suspect physically, and being best at what Cobb and Montgomery do too, but not as versatile as they are.

You think this is the year they keep 6 WRs than? Seems like it gets brought up every year but it never happens. The Packers carried 11 DBs this year, if he's that valuable on ST then maybe the swap a DB for a WR.

[Guiness]

and one of those guys will count 9.15 million against the cap while the other two are on cheap rookie deals

to me, adams is also a candidate to take a hike

and of course, like i said earlier, janis could be the odd man out and off the team next year

Adams is hard to judge for sure. If he doesn't have a good TC next fall he could find himself on the bubble.

[Patler]

After what Janis has shown pretty much every time he got a chance at WR, how can anybody see him as anything less than second only to a healthy Nelson? Of the seven total, Jones and/or Adams should be the first to go. Does Montgomery have anywhere near the speed or athleticism of Janis, not to even mention durability? I doubt it.

Janis showed last night that he still has a long way to go before he will be a starter. His next step is to play an appreciable number of meaningful snaps each game, like a third or fourth receiver.

[Patler]

Adams is hard to judge for sure. If he doesn't have a good TC next fall he could find himself on the bubble.

Yup, he will be at a crossroad next year, is he the player of the potential shown as a rookie, or the disappointing player of 2015.

[Patler]

You think this is the year they keep 6 WRs than? Seems like it gets brought up every year but it never happens. The Packers carried 11 DBs this year, if he's that valuable on ST then maybe the swap a DB for a WR.

They had 6 for most of this year, from when Abbrederis was signed to when Montgomery was put on IR, something like 12 weeks.

[Guiness]

They had 6 for most of this year, from when Abbrederis was signed to when Montgomery was put on IR, something like 12 weeks.

But not 6 coming out of camp. Abbrederis was called up when Montgomery went down, right?

[Patler]

Abbrederis was signed for week 4, after Adams got hurt in the third game. Jones had a hamstring problem at the same time, and Cobb was still hurting from his preseason injury. Montgomery got hurt three weeks after Abbrederis was signed. The point is, from week 4 when Abbrederis was signed through week 15 after which Montgomery was put on IR, for 12 weeks they carried 6 WRs on the 53 man roster. No reason they can't from week 1.

[woodbuck27]

He was. Although Rodgers in his PC said when Cobb went out, both Abby and Janis had to run routes that they had barely run in practice. Routes that were designed for Cobb. I'll drink the Kool-aid and say maybe another offseason/training camp will improve his precision on route running.

That speaks mountains of how things go with the Green Bay Packers and a MM run practise. What is it? Some Private School run 'You' should know your place ANAL Hyped System where you can't even offer any advice or input until MM decides 'You may speak'.

Mike McCarthy in a typical practise for Aaron Rodgers and the pecking order of wide receivers:

"OK you guys...HaHaHaa ... MY GUY's... My Good Men ....You get to learn the real game stuff. Over here Jordy, Randall and Davata (what's your name!?) Ohh Ohh right I have to try harder to remember that...I'll just call you '3' OK ....Yaa Know your my Number Three Wideout. Over here...this will be fun."... Who else let me see....is here..Ohh Thanks for showing up Who are you guys anyway? Jan what? Arba Abra...ahh shit..I hate that.....Frick why did Ted draft you? Yer name is impossible to pronounce....all the same.....how was your day yesterday New Guys...Well no time now for that...might talk to you later HaHaHaa..........What Aaron? There you go again...yer not trying to take over are yaa?....... What? Ahh shit Aaron 'shut your pie hole' and 'for Christ Sakes I told you'. . . . . . I run things around here and they'll learn the real stuff when that time comes. Whaaaaaat Aaron..... Ohh shit...I havn't the time today. I'm still looking for Ted...been three fricken days since he showed his scruffy face around here.

That piss's me off......... get's ... right... down... on my Irish."

"Anyway Guy's forgive my nerves ..... (as he pops a few more TUMs) that's something else again."m You don't need to know."

Right now it's near game day and we're doing route running 101. Let's stay focused....can we.

You young guys. We've got some pretty cool T's in just yesterday. Go see the equipment guy. Aaron.....What's his name? I can't remember names...too much fricken' stress round this monkey Hole." Let's practise...something good might come of it."

[mraynrand]

and of course, like i said earlier, janis could be the odd man out and off the team next year

Not a chance. At the very least, he will be the Jarrett Bush, the Travis Jervey, the Marcus Wilson....

[pbmax]

Not a chance. At the very least, he will be the Jarrett Bush, the Travis Jervey, the Marcus Wilson....

He is better than any of them. Even if you judge Bush a better DB than Janis a WR, Bush was of no field position value like Janis is on KO return.

[mraynrand]

He is better than any of them. Even if you judge Bush a better DB than Janis a WR, Bush was of no field position value like Janis is on KO return.

that's why I said at the very least. Janis isn't going anywhere. The question is whether he has it between the ears to play WR. Rodgers had to throw away a potential TD pass last night because Janis didn't flatten his route. He probably made other errors we're not aware of. Now if he were just a seasoned veteran, assignment sure, like julius Peppers, well then we could trust him.....

SLIDE, SLIDE!!!

[call_me_ishmael]

One thing that I don't get is the obsession with speed. Speed does not equal athleticism. It is certainly a component of it, sure. For example, it is no secret that Ted likes guys who run the first 10 yards very fast. That does not mean they have great top end speed, it means they can accelerate explosively. Give me someone who is explosive and quick and runs great routes over a speedster any day. Greg Jennings was not an elite burner but he was deadly as a route runner in his prime.

[pbmax]

One thing that I don't get is the obsession with speed. Speed does not equal athleticism. It is certainly a component of it, sure. For example, it is no secret that Ted likes guys who run the first 10 yards very fast. That does not mean they have great top end speed, it means they can accelerate explosively. Give me someone who is explosive and quick and runs great routes over a speedster any day. Greg Jennings was not an elite burner but he was deadly as a route runner in his prime.

Well, speed and quickness get used interchangeably sometimes. Ted does like 10 yard quickness at several positions, but his WR corp if full of guys who do not have it.

Janis might but is undisciplined in his routes. Cobb SHOULD be able to be open immediately but it doesn't happen. Nelson, Jones and Adams all take a long time to get moving. Abby and only are the two that stand out in this area. So they could use another one, or even better, Adams and Janis to get much better at getting into and out of routes.

But they also could use speed deep. One reason teams liked man versus the Pack was that a single high safety wan't going to be put in an impossible position very often with the Packers deep speed limited to non speedsters Jones/Adams and the somewhat unreliable (and infrequently repped) Janis. A field stretching TE would help too.