Will Jeff Janis be a *thing* next year?

[Pugger]

and since we're kind of turning this into the future at WR thread

what happens if jordy loses a step because of the injury?

we either need to really put our faith in janis, which i would have a hard time seeing m3 and a-rod doing that after not wanting him on the field all year, or we need to draft a big speedster

If Jordy loses a step because of that injury we might have to draft a speedy WR.

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If Jordy loses a step because of that injury we might have to draft a speedy WR.

the draft and any decent free agents will be long gone by the time we figure out if jordy is back to 100% or not

[King Friday]

but even with his limited speed he was better then cobb and adams

why get rid of the best player of the group if you can't keep them all?

Jones was not really better than Cobb. Cobb was bracketed by 2 defensive players on a vast majority of the plays this year, while Jones almost exclusively had single coverage because NOBODY feared he would beat them deep. If Jones got the attention that Cobb got from opposing defenses, he wouldn't have caught shit this year. With all the injuries, opposing defenses had the luxury of being able to take away Cobb and force another WR on the team to beat them. We all see how that worked out.

So, no, Jones is not the best WR on the team.

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Jones was not really better than Cobb. Cobb was bracketed by 2 defensive players on a vast majority of the plays this year, while Jones almost exclusively had single coverage because NOBODY feared he would beat them deep. If Jones got the attention that Cobb got from opposing defenses, he wouldn't have caught shit this year. With all the injuries, opposing defenses had the luxury of being able to take away Cobb and force another WR on the team to beat them. We all see how that worked out.

So, no, Jones is not the best WR on the team.

[denverYooper]

Janis will have a shot for an expanded role next year, though it's hard to see him higher than #4 until at least 2017.

They'll work up a package of plays for him and if he really works on his detail this offseason, he'll be like George and Weezy.

[King Friday]

If Jordy loses a step because of that injury we might have to draft a speedy WR.

I think we need to draft several speedy TEs instead. It is far more important that we have a target that can attack the middle of the field and be more of a threat in short yardage/goal line situations. DickRod simply looks like he's wearing concrete shoes and has limited value in those situations because it takes him too damn long to get where he needs to be.

[Guiness]

but even with his limited speed he was better then cobb and adams

why get rid of the best player of the group if you can't keep them all?

jones with his slow ass could still get open and catch a ball every now and then, cobb with all his quickness couldn't get away from anyone all season. probably because the wallet in his back pocket if just too heavy for him

Jones was able to be a useful weapon and he got open, although mostly by getting away with pushing off at the top of the route. I'm surprised he didn't get called for it more.

Still, I don't expect him to be back next year.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Jones was able to be a useful weapon and he got open, although mostly by getting away with pushing off at the top of the route. I'm surprised he didn't get called for it more.

Still, I don't expect him to be back next year.

You would have thought that Jones would have gotten more chances yesterday, since the refs weren't calling PI.

[Guiness]

Things looks to be crowded at WR next year. Even the simple math

Nelson
Cobb
Adams
Montgomery
Janis
Abbrederis

That's 6. Add a draft pick (TT's draft picks almost always make the team) and something has to give. I like Abbrederis more as a WR than I do Janis, so I think he stays and Janis goes. His ST contributions are important, but so were Tracy White's and look where that got him.

The unknown factor of course is that the top 4 guys in that list are all currently injured. How many will be ready to go for TC?

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I agree. I think there's about a 1 percent chance of James Jones returning. He brings some nostalgia, but physically he doesn't really have it anymore. His limited speed is even further down.

Player-Coach.

[call_me_ishmael]

and since we're kind of turning this into the future at WR thread

what happens if jordy loses a step because of the injury?

we either need to really put our faith in janis, which i would have a hard time seeing m3 and a-rod doing that after not wanting him on the field all year, or we need to draft a big speedster

And who do they cut? Cobb? Adams? Montgomery? Abby? Janis? Nelson? They aren't drafting a WR - they are going to hope that some better health and good fortune happens this year. They will likely draft a TE.

[Patler]

I like Abbrederis more as a WR than I do Janis, so I think he stays and Janis goes. His ST contributions are important, but so were Tracy White's and look where that got him.

Big difference between Janis and White is that Janis is not just a coverage guy, which WHite was primarily. Janis is a legitimate threat as a KO return man, good enough that they won't have to risk Montgomery there if they don't want to. Abbrederis has been their second choice punt returner to Hyde, but Janis did well with a few preseason punt return opportunities as well, and plays on punt return teams even when not the return man. He is a key member on all four teams.

[Patler]

And who do they cut? Cobb? Adams? Montgomery? Abby? Janis? Nelson? They aren't drafting a WR - they are going to hope that some better health and good fortune happens this year. They will likely draft a TE.

When it comes down to it, if healthy, Cobb and Montgomery are relatively the same, with Montgomery being perhaps better from the backfield, and Cobb perhaps better in the open field. Abbrederis is the same WR as Cobb and Montgomery, not useful from the backfield, but perhaps the best route runner of the three. Cobb, Montgomery and Abbrederis is where the glut is among WRs. Barring injuries, you need two of the three.

[call_me_ishmael]

When it comes down to it, if healthy, Cobb and Montgomery are relatively the same, with Montgomery being perhaps better from the backfield, and Cobb perhaps better in the open field. Abbrederis is the same WR as Cobb and Montgomery, not useful from the backfield, but perhaps the best route runner of the three. Cobb, Montgomery and Abbrederis is where the glut is among WRs. Barring injuries, you need two of the three.

Don't disagree - but why not keep them all if they're all good NFL caliber players. I just don't see them adding another receiver next year. I think they give it another go and assume Nelson will be a solid player and Adams will get out of his funk.

[Patler]

Don't disagree - but why not keep them all if they're all good NFL caliber players. I just don't see them adding another receiver next year. I think they give it another go and assume Nelson will be a solid player and Adams will get out of his funk.

I think they will keep all three. The question was asked who you would get rid of if you wanted to bring in someone new. I think Abbrederis would likely be the guy, not as valuable on ST as Janis, still suspect physically, and being best at what Cobb and Montgomery do too, but not as versatile as they are.