Will Jeff Janis be a *thing* next year?

[pbmax]

To you they seem tiny, but to Rodgers, that's at least 11.1376 QBR points over the span of a season!

Exactly. Though if he keeps running the slant like he did versus the Cards, that distrust will evaporate in a hurry. It was a beautiful thing. Fought all the way through the route, won position and fought for the ball. Nearly brought me to tears.

[Striker]

but even with his limited speed he was better then cobb and adams

why get rid of the best player of the group if you can't keep them all?

jones with his slow ass could still get open and catch a ball every now and then, cobb with all his quickness couldn't get away from anyone all season. probably because the wallet in his back pocket if just too heavy for him

As others said, he was mostly left alone vs. the other players on the roster who were more of a threat. With zero upside and on the wrong side of 30 I don't see any world where they re-sign Jones in favor of Adams/Cobb/Abby/Janis.

[woodbuck27]

Exactly. Though if he keeps running the slant like he did versus the Cards, that distrust will evaporate in a hurry. It was a beautiful thing. Fought all the way through the route, won position and fought for the ball. Nearly brought me to tears.

Any 10 year old football enthusiast in North America...knew...he ...had...to...go...there.

PACKERS !

[Striker]

One thing that I don't get is the obsession with speed. Speed does not equal athleticism. It is certainly a component of it, sure. For example, it is no secret that Ted likes guys who run the first 10 yards very fast. That does not mean they have great top end speed, it means they can accelerate explosively. Give me someone who is explosive and quick and runs great routes over a speedster any day. Greg Jennings was not an elite burner but he was deadly as a route runner in his prime.

It could be the "Madden effect" as well. Looking at the raw statistic in a video game and thinking "well that's all there is to it".

[Striker]

As others have said, Janis seems to also be that super valuable ST guy who plays 3 different roles for the team between offense and ST. So he'd have to really eff up or someone else would need to join the team who is just as intriguing for Janis to go.

Thinking about his poor route running more, there was lots of problems with crisp routes and "improv" after routes break down this season. So maybe with better/dedicated coaching the entire corps will take a step up next year?

[Maxie the Taxi]

One thing that I don't get is the obsession with speed. Speed does not equal athleticism. It is certainly a component of it, sure. For example, it is no secret that Ted likes guys who run the first 10 yards very fast. That does not mean they have great top end speed, it means they can accelerate explosively. Give me someone who is explosive and quick and runs great routes over a speedster any day. Greg Jennings was not an elite burner but he was deadly as a route runner in his prime.

TT's obsession is height. He doesn't draft WR's under 6' tall unless they're named Cobb. The problem is many of the best NFL receivers nowadays (and the fastest) are 5'10" or so...and their last name is usually Brown.

It's possible to draft route runners who have speed as well. There are several in this upcoming draft class.

[woodbuck27]

TT's obsession is height. He doesn't draft WR's under 6' tall unless they're named Cobb. The problem is many of the best NFL receivers nowadays (and the fastest) are 5'10" or so...and their last name is usually Brown.

It's possible to draft route runners who have speed as well. There are several in this upcoming draft class.

Is there any like Antonio Brown possibly available after Rounds 3-4?

I've neglected this part of my overall interest and knowledge as the fan.

I need shortcuts. . . . and the next week or two. After that I'm going to be less ignorant I expect.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Is there any like Antonio Brown possibly available after Rounds 3-4?

I've neglected this part of my overall interest and knowledge as the fan.

I need shortcuts. . . . and the next week or two. After that I'm going to be less ignorant I expect.

Sterling Shepard, Round 3?

[Joemailman]

Shepard is an inch shorter and the same weight as Greg Jennings. I could see TT having a Round 2-3 grade on him.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Shepard is an inch shorter and the same weight as Greg Jennings. I could see TT having a Round 2-3 grade on him.

Yup. 5'10" 193 lbs. He reminds me a lot of Jennings. He's just what the doctor ordered for our WR corps. But TT likes the taller, bigger guys like Monty. Then again, look at what Seattle got when they drafted Lockett or Arizona when they drafted JJ Nelson. It's a new NFL, where small guys with speed can not only survive, but flourish. They same is also true about RB. See Tyler Ervin in this year's draft.

[smuggler]

Jennings ran 4.40 electronic. That's pretty fast. He was a good route runner, sure, and had nice wiggle. He still had wheels.

As has been said, Jennings was 5'11"

[Fritz]

I am all but certain Jones will be gone, though I think he'd be a good WR coach.

I believe TT will draft a wide receiver, but probably not in the first couple rounds.

We're all complaining about the wide receiver position, but remember that the Packers played most of the AZ game having lost their #1 (Nelson), #2 (Cobb), #3 (Adams), and #4 (Montgomery) receivers...

And only one of the guys on the field at the end was an old, slow vet. Two were young guys with quicks or wheels.

That's crazy.

[Guiness]

I am all but certain Jones will be gone, though I think he'd be a good WR coach.

I believe TT will draft a wide receiver, but probably not in the first couple rounds.

We're all complaining about the wide receiver position, but remember that the Packers played most of the AZ game having lost their #1 (Nelson), #2 (Cobb), #3 (Adams), and #4 (Montgomery) receivers...

And only one of the guys on the field at the end was an old, slow vet. Two were young guys with quicks or wheels.

That's crazy.

Has there ever been a guy who two teams in receiving yards, two years in a row, only to find himself without a job after both years?

[Patler]

Has there ever been a guy who two teams in receiving yards, two years in a row, only to find himself without a job after both years?

I asked myself; "Who might have worn out his welcome after good years?" (Not that Jones did, but I needed someone good enough to get a lot of yards but be released.)
I immediately answered myself; "T.O."

Sure enough, in 2008 he lead Dallas in receiving yards but was released. He signed a one year contract with Buffalo and lead them in receiving yards. He was not resigned, but went to the Bengals.

[Bossman641]

I just can't see Jones coming back. He served his purpose this year but 6 games with one catch or less, 3 games with no catches at all. Next year he won't be good enough to be 1-3 and doesn't have enough upside to stash as 4-6.

Thanks JJ. We will always have 2015 and the Hoodie