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  • #31
    2 point conversions succeed 48 perecent of the time
    We odds higher than that we'd beat AZ in OT given how that fourth quarter went ???
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    • #32
      Packers were 5 of 6 in 2 point conversions this year. All passes. They could have found a play, hell, they could have spread them out and run.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
        2 point conversions succeed 48 perecent of the time
        We odds higher than that we'd beat AZ in OT given how that fourth quarter went ???
        The most dangerous player on both sides was Larry FitzGerald and the Packer 'D' was in fits trying...were they..to defend against him.

        MM had to see that was the case. Yet he try's to make us believe that HE had confidence in the Packers 'D'. ????????? Why Mike???????? What did you see Mike in the second half of that game that had you so confident in Dom Capers 'D'?

        As I saw the game Mike Mccarthy should have:

        a)Realized his offense was stuttering at best

        b) Realized that the Packer offense was just freaking lucky to get a second time last second heroic Hail Mary play executed for a TD

        c) Seized that moment and 'easily ...with determination /conviction as it was one of those...the time was 'NOW' moments in his Coaching career and certainly with courage elected to go for broke and the game right then and there. Mike McCarthy should have taken advantage of his Irish (if he has it...I'm wondering now) and gone all balls to the walls for the TWO POINT CONVERSION.

        FIRE THE TWO POINT CONVERSION PLAY....He had his team 2 Yards away from another possible Super Bowl Game.

        Mike McCarthy simply cannot seize the moment and next season we'll suffer the same ..this Fact of Life and MM is right before your total Green Bay Packer consciousness and yet you ignore it

        Mike McCarthy chokes up in HUGE games Packer fans.

        This is absolutely way too obvious people.
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        • #34
          I think MM put his faith in the defense which was justified. The defense had given up 2 FG's and 2 TD's. One TD was when Arizona got the ball at the Packers 42 yard line. The other was a lucky break for Arizona when Randall deflected the ball away from Fitz and it ended up in Floyd's hands. One of the field goals was when Arizona got the ball at the Packers 25 yard line. Packers had intercepted 2 passes and had their hands on a couple of others. MM went with his strength. It didn't work out, but I think it was the right call.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            I think MM put his faith in the defense which was justified. The defense had given up 2 FG's and 2 TD's. One TD was when Arizona got the ball at the Packers 42 yard line. The other was a lucky break for Arizona when Randall deflected the ball away from Fitz and it ended up in Floyd's hands. One of the field goals was when Arizona got the ball at the Packers 25 yard line. Packers had intercepted 2 passes and had their hands on a couple of others. MM went with his strength. It didn't work out, but I think it was the right call.
            I respect your right to feel as you do.

            Going my way might have led to victory.

            Going his way...that you agrees with >>> led to >>> a defeat.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
              I respect your right to feel as you do.

              Going my way might have led to victory.

              Going his way...that you agrees with >>> led to >>> a defeat.
              Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
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              • #37
                I seem to recall M3 being more aggressive in his play calling earlier in his career. Would he have gone for it 4-5 years ago?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                  It wasn't hindsight. Several of us were calling for it right at the time. I'm Ok with people differing on the call, but I and others thought the best bet was going for two. People have different opinions.
                  Well I only saw one person clamoring for 2 BEFORE the coin toss(woodbuck). After the bunk flip, then AZ wins the toss. It's easier to say 2pt convo was smarter. Your quote after the toss was"shoulda gone for 2".... MM didn't have the luxury of knowing AZ would get the ball first. That's the very definition of hindsight. But I'll give you credit for leaning that way. While the defense wasn't spectacular in the 2nd half, the Cards only TD was a miraculous bounce off the DBs forearm.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by yetisnowman View Post
                    Well I only saw one person clamoring for 2 BEFORE the coin toss(woodbuck). After the bunk flip, then AZ wins the toss. It's easier to say 2pt convo was smarter. Your quote after the toss was"shoulda gone for 2".... MM didn't have the luxury of knowing AZ would get the ball first. That's the very definition of hindsight. But I'll give you credit for leaning that way. While the defense wasn't spectacular in the 2nd half, the Cards only TD was a miraculous bounce off the DBs forearm.
                    You're suck a dick. I posted before even knowing what the toss was. We were watching on DirecTV with about a 30-45 minute delay. It was kinda weird because I was going back to watch the game at times already knowing what had happened from here. (I also actually missed the final regulation AZ TD because I walked into a different room to post on here as well and had to go back and look at the interference later). It wasn't hindsight - it was my initial immediate reaction. If you don't believe me, you know what? I don't give a fuck. But I still think it was the right call.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                      I seem to recall M3 being more aggressive in his play calling earlier in his career. Would he have gone for it 4-5 years ago?
                      Nah. I think all coaches under almost all situations would kick the extra point. It's just such a risky call. The other way the thinking is that you have so many more chances to pull out the win. I liked the 2 point call for all the reasons I listed, but I have no problem with the other view.
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                      • #41
                        Honestly I didn't even think to go for two. I fee like you coach and play to extend the game. Now the NFL is different because one coin flip and one possession can lead to victory. If this was college or high school I never think to go for two.

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                        • #42
                          It was my initial reaction. The immediate thought I had was that the defense was stunned and you had them on their heels, maybe you just totally catch them off balance and shock the hell out of them. And/or you force them to take a TO, them come back with a totally different look, etc. Plus the way the offense was playing pretty much sucked except two runs and two hail marys in the second half. Oh well, enough of this - time to let it go.
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                          • #43
                            If there were going to go for 2, they should have taken 7 or 8 delay of game penalties to put the ball back at the 40 yard line or so. They would have had a decent chance of converting that.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                              You're suck a dick. I posted before even knowing what the toss was. We were watching on DirecTV with about a 30-45 minute delay. It was kinda weird because I was going back to watch the game at times already knowing what had happened from here. (I also actually missed the final regulation AZ TD because I walked into a different room to post on here as well and had to go back and look at the interference later). It wasn't hindsight - it was my initial immediate reaction. If you don't believe me, you know what? I don't give a fuck. But I still think it was the right call.
                              Why do you always resort to name calling....Why would I assume or know that you were watching the game on a 30-45 minute delay? So you were keeping up with play by play on the game thread but watching the game on a delay? Sounds like a miserable gameday experience but to each their own. You posted at the time of the coin toss. Much less than 30 min after the Janis catch. Your timeline and habits are very confusing. Your post was in past tense. Sorry for taking it a face value. You have nothing that shows your reaction was immediate.

                              My point that the vast majority of people bitching about kicking the extra point were not vocal about it until well after the fact.

                              Relax man.

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                              • #45
                                I would have gone for two. In fact I believe it was a brilliant young coach Scott Campbell who once said "Then run it, and let's get the hell out of here." Or maybe that was some other dude. I forget. But I digress.

                                That was a game you're trying to steal. You should take your chances on winning at the end of regulation - especially short handed.

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