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[Pugger]

I'm thinking more about the less than precise accuracy he showed even in training camp, before all the things you mentioned began. Remember that in camp he was asked, and was a bit testy about his accuracy. Maybe it was the knee, but maybe it was the start of a new phase in his career. If the latter, he will have to adjust. If he does, things will be fine. If he doesn't, well......

No athlete in his mid 30s is the same player he was 10 years earlier. If he plays as if he is, it can be problematic.

I wouldn't call 32/33 mid 30s.

[Patler]

I wouldn't call 32/33 mid 30s.

The key to my comment wasn't "mid thirties", it was that players age, and it catches up to them. There is a reason 30 is thought of as old in a lot of sports, football included. Throw in the hits Rogers has taken, knee surgery in college, several significant injuries as a pro, and I expect he is not the player he was at 26, 27, 28.

Rodgers didn't even attempt some throws he did routinely just a couple years ago. He also missed Cobb a lot more than he had in the past. Of most concern to me is that he didn't seem to "see" things that were there, when in the past he never seemed to overlook opportunities.

Lots of things were different with AR. There can be a lot of different reasons, some insignificant for 2016, some significant for 2016.

[Pugger]

The key to my comment wasn't "mid thirties", it was that players age, and it catches up to them. There is a reason 30 is thought of as old in a lot of sports, football included. Throw in the hits Rogers has taken, knee surgery in college, several significant injuries as a pro, and I expect he is not the player he was at 26, 27, 28.

Rodgers didn't even attempt some throws he did routinely just a couple years ago. He also missed Cobb a lot more than he had in the past. Of most concern to me is that he didn't seem to "see" things that were there, when in the past he never seemed to overlook opportunities.

Lots of things were different with AR. There can be a lot of different reasons, some insignificant for 2016, some significant for 2016.

Was the reason he didn't attempt some throws he routinely did before because of a lack of trust in his WRs? We'll soon find out. Aaron didn't start right away as a rookie and has only been our starter for 8 years so I am figuring he doesn't have as much wear and tear as other 33 year old QBs.

[woodbuck27]

I personally am hoping for Rodgers-A-Palooza in 2019, when Hundley takes over and Rodgers gets traded to the Bills.

Then MY Jets might be looking for another Packer castoff at QB.

[gbgary]

In the last three years they have gotten better at RB, center, DB, backup QB, probably DL, too. Last year before tc I would have said WR, too, but that is now in question. Other areas may have regressed, but that is the way it always goes.

got better in those areas through the draft. could've got even better had he used some of that unused cap in FA.

[Patler]

got better in those areas through the draft. could've got even better had he used some of that unused cap in FA.

What unused cap? Some of you write as if there have been 10's of millions of cap space that TT hasn't used. This year they rolled over less than $7 million. That is the combined total of all of their unused cap space since the 2011 season. Going into 2016, in the past five season they have spent every penny of their salary caps except for $6.9 million.

Sure, that was enough to have done something, but anything real significant would have altered what they have done, which, of course, has been mostly extending their own. It is also important to retain a cushion, to do what you have to during the season. Rolling over $5-7 million isn't much.

[Patler]

Was the reason he didn't attempt some throws he routinely did before because of a lack of trust in his WRs? We'll soon find out.

That shouldn't be the reason because the guy he didn't trust, apparently, was Janis, and he barely saw the field. Mostly he was throwing to Jones, Cobb and Adams. Why should he have lacked trust in them?

Personally, I think he started second guessing his own ability to make those throws. He hesitated, then the opportunity was gone.

[Upnorth]

That shouldn't be the reason because the guy he didn't trust, apparently, was Janis, and he barely saw the field. Mostly he was throwing to Jones, Cobb and Adams. Why should he have lacked trust in them?

Personally, I think he started second guessing his own ability to make those throws. He hesitated, then the opportunity was gone.

I think that when people who are usually not wrong, make a wrong prediction it is majorly wrong. Here’s hoping this is one of those times.

[yetisnowman]

Holy crap you are actually complaining about his play last year?! He might not have been all world but good lord he didn't have his top two targets for most of the season and still threw 31 TDs and only had 8 ints.

Cobb played in 16 games, so I'm not sure what you mean by top 2 targets. Look beyond the td/int numbers. Career lows in yds, yds/attempt, comp %. His accuracy, mechanics, and decision making were bad.(of course by his standards) If his play didn't concern you last year I am not sure we watched the same team. I hope it's related to injuries, but it's completely fair to wonder if his play will deteriorate sooner than we had hoped a year or two ago.

[Patler]

I think that when people who are usually not wrong, make a wrong prediction it is majorly wrong. Here’s hoping this is one of those times.

I haven't predicted anything, because I don't know what to make of his play on 2015. I have said all along that I am anxiously for next season to see if 2015 was an aberration, or the start of a new phase in AR's career.

I just think we shouldn't sit here and blindly believe AR will be the same as a few years ago. Maybe he will for a couple more years, and maybe not. We can make a lot of excuses for 2015, but maybe he just had an off year too, and he will play until he is 45.

Another thing to hope for is that, sine AR is a very cerebral player, even if he isn't the same, he will be smart enough to use what he has.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Cobb played in 16 games, so I'm not sure what you mean by top 2 targets.

Three of his top four anyways (Adams was never right, even when he played) and his starting TE. Add a fat Lacy, a fumbling Starks, and an injury riddled OL.

[Patler]

Cobb played in 16 games, so I'm not sure what you mean by top 2 targets. Look beyond the td/int numbers. Career lows in yds, yds/attempt, comp %. His a
ccuracy, mechanics, and decision making were bad.(of course by his standards) If his play didn't concern you last year I am not sure we watched the same team. I hope it's related to injuries, but it's completely fair to wonder if his play will deteriorate sooner than we had hoped a year or two ago.

Exactly.

[mraynrand]

. Mostly he was throwing to Jones, Cobb and Adams. Why should he have lacked trust in them?

Because they couldn't get open and dropped passes?

[denverYooper]

AR will be fine. With a fresh knee and some healthy WR, he'll look a lot better.

[Joemailman]

AR will be fine. With a fresh knee and some healthy WR, he'll look a lot better.

MM running the offense again won't hurt either. Delegating more responsibilities to his offensive assistants didn't work.