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  • #46
    Originally posted by wist43 View Post
    Ted simply doesn't care if he fills holes in a given year or not... by his reckoning, the hole will eventually be filled; and, in TT's world, 'eventually' is good enough.

    TT is sooooooooooo myopic, that I don't think it matters to him whether we win anything or not. To TT, his process IS the goal. Wins and losses are incidental.
    It doesn't matter to the GM whether they win anything or not?

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    • #47
      my thing is if you're not getting better (which is what it will take to win a SB), you're getting worse. needs aren't being addressed but are only being added to.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by gbgary View Post
        my thing is if you're not getting better (which is what it will take to win a SB), you're getting worse. needs aren't being addressed but are only being added to.
        EXACTLY!!!!!!!

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        • #49
          Originally posted by gbgary View Post
          my thing is if you're not getting better (which is what it will take to win a SB), you're getting worse. needs aren't being addressed but are only being added to.
          thats where i kind of at

          we haven't done anything to improve, we've just tried to stay the same by keeping our own

          to me, thats not really progress
          Last edited by red; 03-20-2016, 05:55 PM.

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          • #50
            Health and a third year for Adams and Janis will improve this team. Not to mention Monty.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              Health and a third year for Adams and Janis will improve this team. Not to mention Monty.
              Adams can only get better, there is no way he could be worse.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by red View Post
                thats where i kind of at

                we haven't done anything to improve, we've just tried to stay the same by keeping our own

                to me, thats not really progress
                Allow existing rising players to progress is the way a draft and develop team is supposed to improve. Making the idea to improve by staying the same.
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                • #53
                  When your system is a draft and develop system, the progress comes from the develop part of that system...why is that so hard to understand... when you develop, you improve... that's the whole point... you don't always get to add the best players in every position through the draft... so the players you do get, you invest in them... give them time in your system... develop them... then 1 might get hurt, Barrington... you don't just kick him to the curb... you've already invested a 4th in Ryan... now he's developing... getting better (hopefully)... that's the way it works... you can't always add multiple players at the same position in the draft every year... then if you do, you don't always hit... like TT did with Randall and Rollins... guess that isn't a need anymore, like it was last year... but TT doesn't care about filling needs... hes just out there trying to lose every year... R. Rodgers isn't a barn burner, and not my favorite... i'm hoping he adds more talent to push the players we already have at ILB and TE... but the talent he does have at those positions he's developing... (is there a theme here)

                  Now when the draft comes... we all know TT is going to draft what he believes is BPA... especially in the early rounds... late on day 2 and day 3 is when we'll see picks based on more need and depth... that could happen in the early rounds but only if it meets the BPA factor as well... this draft is significant in that it has a lot of DL depth that could push other positions down to us in the first round, ala HaHa in his draft... the question is are players like Billings and Rankins hopefully going to go higher and hopefully push players like Dodd and Ragland down... or are players like Ragland and Dodd going to go higher and push players like Billings and Rankings down to us... Im hoping a number of WRs go high in the first round too... As many QBs, WRs, OTs, as we can get to get drafted high will hopefully push both the DL talent and that LB (inside and out) talent down to us that could definitely help...
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Health and a third year for Adams and Janis will improve this team. Not to mention Monty.
                    Crickets on the Monty front. I'm not holding my breath on that one, I've got a bad feeling 8-(
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                    • #55
                      I'm not even saying I like the way TT does it... but he has decided that is the way he is going to do it and he has been pretty consistent... at least give him that... I have friends who's teams don't come close to sniffing the playoffs the way our team does, much less seen their team win 2 championships in their lifetime (or more for you elder gents and ladies)... they tell me all the time how nice it must be... that's why I don't complain much... do I want to win more with Aaron... Hell yeah... I know my team is going to have a chance every year for the fore see able future...
                      Now what y'all know about dem Texas boys
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        Health and a third year for Adams and Janis will improve this team. Not to mention Monty.

                        WOW; was this post suppose to give us optimism ? If that is your best effort can you at least remove Adams
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                          WOW; was this post suppose to give us optimism ? If that is your best effort can you at least remove Adams
                          Even if he is nothing but the midpoint between his rookie and second year, he will help.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by BZnDallas View Post
                            When your system is a draft and develop system, the progress comes from the develop part of that system...why is that so hard to understand... when you develop, you improve... that's the whole point... you don't always get to add the best players in every position through the draft... so the players you do get, you invest in them... give them time in your system... develop them... then 1 might get hurt, Barrington... you don't just kick him to the curb... you've already invested a 4th in Ryan... now he's developing... getting better (hopefully)... that's the way it works... you can't always add multiple players at the same position in the draft every year... then if you do, you don't always hit... like TT did with Randall and Rollins... guess that isn't a need anymore, like it was last year... but TT doesn't care about filling needs... hes just out there trying to lose every year... R. Rodgers isn't a barn burner, and not my favorite... i'm hoping he adds more talent to push the players we already have at ILB and TE... but the talent he does have at those positions he's developing... (is there a theme here)

                            Now when the draft comes... we all know TT is going to draft what he believes is BPA... especially in the early rounds... late on day 2 and day 3 is when we'll see picks based on more need and depth... that could happen in the early rounds but only if it meets the BPA factor as well... this draft is significant in that it has a lot of DL depth that could push other positions down to us in the first round, ala HaHa in his draft... the question is are players like Billings and Rankins hopefully going to go higher and hopefully push players like Dodd and Ragland down... or are players like Ragland and Dodd going to go higher and push players like Billings and Rankings down to us... Im hoping a number of WRs go high in the first round too... As many QBs, WRs, OTs, as we can get to get drafted high will hopefully push both the DL talent and that LB (inside and out) talent down to us that could definitely help...
                            The huge downside to giving everyone their time to flourish and grow. Your all pro QB will get old and degrade. By the time Ted grows the rest of his garden, his prize rose bush (Rodgers) may wither away. Chances are pretty slim on hitting on a 3rd all pro QB in a row.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by gbgary View Post
                              my thing is if you're not getting better (which is what it will take to win a SB), you're getting worse. needs aren't being addressed but are only being added to.
                              BINGO !

                              TT has an ego issue and that lends to an overall personality that certainly retards the Green Bay Packers and A Rod et all ever winning another Super Bowl. That is especially evident in his generally laissez- faire attitude and Free Agency's overall potential impact on improving on last season's roster potential.

                              I see t0o many members here just 'Trust in Ted Thompson'. This isn't like a religion where Faith dominates as the foundation of all your beliefs. The team isn't playing Horseshoes... where coming close is rewarded. We are dealing with satisfying more so being in the running for a better opportunity and winning another SUPER BOWL. Nothing but that goal is acceptable to this member of Packer Nation.

                              Any NFL team GM that has any sense and Aaron Rodgers is going a lot more 'all in' than TT seems capable of. Ted Thompson again has an ego issue that clash with my expectations of him. Ted Thompson simply lucked out when Aaron Rodgers fell to him. Winning thst first Super Bowl only ranks him as an NFL GM as being lucky...then. I want Ted Thompson to set himself clear of that descriptive term.....ant that to no avail given he has arguably on Packer Nations Team; Aaron Rodgers as his QB.

                              Ted Thompson frustrates me. I'll be ecstatic when he retires.

                              I hope so much that will be soon because the Packers won't win the prize with TT's ego attitude. So no more GO Pack GO's or GO PACKERS. To have that cheer is too much blind faith.
                              Last edited by woodbuck27; 03-20-2016, 10:23 PM.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                                Ted simply doesn't care if he fills holes in a given year or not... by his reckoning, the hole will eventually be filled; and, in TT's world, 'eventually' is good enough.

                                TT is sooooooooooo myopic, that I don't think it matters to him whether we win anything or not. To TT, his process IS the goal. Wins and losses are incidental.
                                Wins aren't incidental, they are the natural result of the process.

                                Maybe TT realizes that every team always has those holes, and the key to continued success is to keep the size of a hole small. Maybe he realizes that trying too hard to fill one hole usually creates another hole

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