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For a smallish, fast back, his yds/carry average is mediocre at best. Yard/reception average is low. He has been a consistent fumbler. If you can bring him in on a veteran minimum salary cor a look, fine; but I wouldn't invest much in him.Originally posted by Pugger View PostEven tho Starks doesn't have the mileage most 30 year old RBs have Hillman is younger and his average yds per carry is almost the same. I wonder why he is still available.
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One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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Me too to keep me moving !Originally posted by Carolina_Packer View PostEveryday!
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He's sure handed, not one to fumble.Originally posted by gbgary View Postbut can hillman catch the ball? maybe that's the attraction.
The thing I was thinking is that it might be delicate in terms of the Packer locker room and bringing in another RB now that TT has awarded James Starks with his new contract.Last edited by woodbuck27; 04-02-2016, 03:52 PM.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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About the same rate as James Starks.Originally posted by Patler View PostI don't think that is the case, Woodbuck. 8 fumbles in 520 touches, and consistently through his career."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Source: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/n...k-fumble-ratesThe average fumble rate for the top-10 rushers in the NFL last season was 88.6, which is the same as saying the running back fumbled once every 88.6 offensive touches. Anything above 140.0 fumble rate is generally considered a strong number among running backs.
Last year, Nebraska's Ameer Abdullah had the highest fumble rate (35.4) in the draft class and his ball security was an issue for him as a rookie with the Detroit Lions. He fumbled four times on 168 offensive touches for a fumble rate of 42.0 in 2015.
Below is the career fumble rate for running back prospects in the 2016 NFL Draft class, starting with the highest (worst).
39.9 – Kenyan Drake, Alabama
43.3 – Alex Collins, Arkansas
44.0 – Daniel Lasco, California
45.6 – C.J. Prosise, Notre Dame
61.2 – Josh Ferguson, Illinois
61.6 – Wendell Smallwood, West Virginia
63.5 – Kenneth Dixon, Louisiana Tech
63.8 – Tre Madden, USC
71.1 – Devontae Booker, Utah
72.0 – Jonathan Williams, Arkansas
104.1 – DeAndre Washington, Texas Tech
111.8 – Jordan Howard, Indiana
123.0 – Tyler Ervin, San Jose State
123.8 – Derrick Henry, Alabama
128.8 – Tra Carson, Texas A&M
138.5 – Keith Marshall, Georgia
140.4 – Paul Perkins, UCLA
162.5 – Ezekiel Elliott, Ohio State
169.7 – Aaron Green, TCU
Kelvin Taylor, Florida (no fumbles in college)One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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Huge difference between Hillman and Starks. Hillman has fumbled at a consistent rate so far in his career. On the other hand, Starks fumbled at a rate of one every 90 to 100 or so touches until the end of last year when he had four fumbles in four games, just 42 touches. I suspect there was a reason we are not aware of, or Starks just had a period in which his focus waned. If it continues, he is done. But, for his career excluding those four games he is not the fumbler Hillman has been.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostAbout the same rate as James Starks.
That said, Hillman can improve, too
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