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  • #31
    Originally posted by esoxx View Post
    The NFL All Pro team is the measuring stick.
    Yup......and I'd add playoff experience.

    How often does a player contribute to his teams overall success.
    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
    ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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    • #32
      Mockup of all the mocks, with percentages. Updated through today, with mocks from March 21 to April 17. So some of this data is a month old.


      1. Rams - Wentz, Lynch, Treadwell, Goff (in descending order of percentage, 10% threshold after first 3)

      2. Browns - Goff, Wentz, Ramsey

      3. Chargers - Ramsey, Tunsil, Buckner

      4. Cowboys - Bosa, Ramsey, Jack

      5. Jags - Jack, Ramsey, Bosa

      6. Ravens - Buckner, Bosa, Stanley, Tunsil/Jack

      7. 49ers - Goff, Buckner, Wentz, Lynch

      8. Eagles - Elliot, Hargreaves, Stanley

      9. Tampa - Hargreaves, Lawson, Buckner, Bosa

      10. Giants - Stanley, Elliot, Hargreaves/Conklin

      11. Bears - Floyd, Stanley, Lawson (literally everyone is listed for the Bears)

      12. Saints - Rankins, Robinson, Lawson

      13. Dolphins - Elliot, Jackson, Hargreaves, Lee/Apple, Alexander

      14. Raiders - Apple, Ragland, Conklin

      15. Tennessee - Tunsil, Conklin, Decker

      16. Lions - Decker/Treadwell, Conklin (Other leads with over 20%)
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #33


        17. Falcons - Lee, Lawson, Ragland, Floyd

        18. Colts - Decker, Spence, Kelly, Conklin

        19. Bills - Nkemdiche, Spence/Reed

        20. Jets - Floyd, Lynch, Spence/Lee

        21. Washington - Reed, Ragland/Billings, Robinson

        22. Texans - Coleman, Doctson, Fuller, Treadwell

        23. Vikings - Doctson, Treadwell, Fuller, Coleman

        24. Bengals - Coleman, Doctson, Fuller

        25. Steelers - Jackson, Alexander, Apple

        26. Seahawks - Others (37%), Spriggs, Decker, Ifedi

        27. Packers - Others (25%), Reed, Ragland, Billings

        28. Chiefs - Others (37%), Jackson, Alexander, Apple

        29. Cardinals - Others (38%), Kelly, Spence/Nkemdiche

        30. Panthers - Others (25%), Ogbah, Spriggs, Dodd

        31. Broncos - Others (27%), Lynch, Cook, Nkemdiche

        Huh. No Patriots pick. Wonder what happened?
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #34
          Kiper at ESPN for the Packers: http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-pa...ft-for-packers

          Here are his picks for the Packers:

          First round (No. 27 overall): Kamalei Correa, OLB, Boise State

          Second round (No. 57): Jerell Adams, TE, South Carolina

          Third round (No. 88): Maurice Canady, CB, Virginia
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #35
            McShay: http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-pa...-packers-draft

            Round 1 (No. 27 overall): Vernon Butler, DT, Louisiana Tech

            Round 2 (No. 57): Nick Vannett, TE, Ohio State

            Round 3 (No. 88): B.J. Goodson, ILB, Clemson


            He has the TE even though this mock is post FA signing Cook.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dra...encies-experts

              Huh. No Patriots pick. Wonder what happened?
              O2 Brute!
              "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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              • #37
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                McShay: http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-pa...-packers-draft

                Round 1 (No. 27 overall): Vernon Butler, DT, Louisiana Tech

                Round 2 (No. 57): Nick Vannett, TE, Ohio State

                Round 3 (No. 88): B.J. Goodson, ILB, Clemson


                He has the TE even though this mock is post FA signing Cook.
                McShay's picks are crazy, with the exception of Butler. Kiper's picks are shocking. Not even close IMO (even given the TT bizarro factor.)
                One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                • #38
                  Does this represent the best path forward, or does it just demonstrate the desperate desire to improve a team short term?




                  Scott Kacsmar ‏@FO_ScottKacsmar 14h14 hours ago
                  Give me the group on the left every time. @Cianaf
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #39
                    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 3m3 minutes ago
                    #Panthers GM Dave Gettleman: "I don't subscribe to the window theory. I don't subscribe to the one-player-away theory."

                    On releasing Josh Norman.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #40
                      Brian Burke ‏@bburkeESPN 8m8 minutes ago
                      I'm often asked what is the NFL's equivalent of undervalued assets, a la high-OBA batters in Moneyball. Answer is *future* draft picks.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #41
                        According to our most recent statistics that we drew on the first round, it’s less than 60 percent of those players that are starting,” Dimitroff said. “I think it may have come in at 56 percent. So point being it’s not an exact science, we know that. There are so many other things that are involved in it. The first step is finding out whether that player has the adept skills on the field, of course. Many other areas that we’re looking into to make sure they’re fits in the organization. [Do] they have the mental capacity, they have the character capacity, and the team element that a team is looking for? Again, you’d better have a plan for the guys who are a little bit wayward in their approach. That’s alway been a big discussion point as well.”
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          Does this represent the best path forward, or does it just demonstrate the desperate desire to improve a team short term?




                          Scott Kacsmar ‏@FO_ScottKacsmar 14h14 hours ago
                          Give me the group on the left every time. @Cianaf
                          Where is the 7-16 group? Isn't Ryan Leaf on the left side too?

                          I assume the point is to ask whether it's better to have a QB start right away or 'learn the ropes as a backup' and the answer is of course, it depends on the QB's abilities and the team's needs. There is no blanket 'right' answer.
                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                            Where is the 7-16 group? Isn't Ryan Leaf on the left side too?

                            I assume the point is to ask whether it's better to have a QB start right away or 'learn the ropes as a backup' and the answer is of course, it depends on the QB's abilities and the team's needs. There is no blanket 'right' answer.
                            Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russel and Tim Couch and Akili Smith. That's some motherfucking cherry picking going on to create that list, it's worse than useless.
                            --
                            Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              Mockup of all the mocks, with percentages. Updated through today, with mocks from March 21 to April 17. So some of this data is a month old.


                              1. Rams - Wentz, Lynch, Treadwell, Goff (in descending order of percentage, 10% threshold after first 3)

                              2. Browns - Goff, Wentz, Ramsey

                              3. Chargers - Ramsey, Tunsil, Buckner

                              4. Cowboys - Bosa, Ramsey, Jack

                              5. Jags - Jack, Ramsey, Bosa

                              6. Ravens - Buckner, Bosa, Stanley, Tunsil/Jack

                              7. 49ers - Goff, Buckner, Wentz, Lynch
                              I bet Lynch goes to the 49ers at 7. The Cowboys would be smart to take him, but they'd have work to do calming down Romo if they did that.
                              --
                              Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                                Where is the 7-16 group? Isn't Ryan Leaf on the left side too?

                                I assume the point is to ask whether it's better to have a QB start right away or 'learn the ropes as a backup' and the answer is of course, it depends on the QB's abilities and the team's needs. There is no blanket 'right' answer.
                                The lists are quite useless. Bart Starr never started as a rookie. He alternated starts his second season with Babe Parilli; but, since they played only a 12 game schedule in those years he makes neither of the lists.

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