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  • INTERESTING===PATS TRIED REGAINING THE DRAFT PICK

    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    gotta agree.......year after year.........it's interesting to see how the Pats keep building their roster with a combo of draft picks, high risk trades, and FA signings.


    Also interesting the NFL did their own PSI tests but won't share them. HIGHLY NOTED points the past couple days. WHY does the NFL not share them ? Good chance cause what they found out....would not help their case.
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
      gotta agree.......year after year.........it's interesting to see how the Pats keep building their roster with a combo of draft picks, high risk trades, and FA signings.


      Also interesting the NFL did their own PSI tests but won't share them. HIGHLY NOTED points the past couple days. WHY does the NFL not share them ? Good chance cause what they found out....would not help their case.
      Ironic how the NFL bashed Brady for not cooperating. Yet it's fine for them to hide shit.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
        Ironic how the NFL bashed Brady for not cooperating. Yet it's fine for them to hide shit.

        Everybody is quick to bash the Pats because they are jealous. Many teams hate GB and mock Rodgers mannerisms and lack of leadership on the field...IMO.......because they are jealous of our success.

        I listened to a Pats fan call in; for the most part Patriots fans feel everybody is out to get them because they have hands down the best coach in the NFL and a Hall of Fame QB to go along with him ...both of which....will do nearly everything to win. They feel the rest of the NFL is jealous of their dominance.

        They are at least partly correct.

        Hardly anybody brings up the NFL conveniently hiding details that might at least have a bit of relevance. They do what they want. And they don't like NE or Hoody Genius.
        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • #5
          ^ The reason Goodell had to come down hard on them was, at least in part, due to the lenience the League showed when the videotaping operation turned up years ago. Even after the fine and draft pick penalty, Roger had the kindness to destroy all the evidence. A lot of teams and officials think the Patriots got away with a lot on this one.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            ^ The reason Goodell had to come down hard on them was, at least in part, due to the lenience the League showed when the videotaping operation turned up years ago. Even after the fine and draft pick penalty, Roger had the kindness to destroy all the evidence. A lot of teams and officials think the Patriots got away with a lot on this one.
            That was Goodell as well, right ?

            So he punishes them more severely because he screwed up the first time ?
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
              That was Goodell as well, right ?

              So he punishes them more severely because he screwed up the first time ?
              No, he punished them more severely because they are a repeat offender.

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              • #8
                Bretsky;

                Re: The title of this thread

                By "Interesting" do you mean --surprising--? Why wouldn't they try to get it back? Wouldn't every other owner and Mark Murphy try to do the same? Isn't it to be expected when they have been given deference and kid-glove treatment in the past?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  No, he punished them more severely because they are a repeat offender.
                  He bailed them out and they crawfished on him so he is ticked.
                  Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Patler View Post
                    No, he punished them more severely because they are a repeat offender.
                    They probably should have gotten crucifixion, first offense.
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                      He bailed them out and they crawfished on him so he is ticked.
                      crawfished?
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                        Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        No, he punished them more severely because they are a repeat offender.
                        They probably should have gotten crucifixion, first offense.
                        No, that is not the concept for escalating punishment in repeat offenders. It's not intended to "make up" for a too light punishment of an earlier offense, nor is that what I was implying. It is intended to find a punishment sufficient to deter the offender from offending again.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Patler View Post
                          No, that is not the concept for escalating punishment in repeat offenders. It's not intended to "make up" for a too light punishment of an earlier offense, nor is that what I was implying. It is intended to find a punishment sufficient to deter the offender from offending again.
                          Was that cited by Goodell at the time of the punishment?

                          I haven't seen it, or don't remember it. Seems too fine a point, especially since he all but ruled out team involvement in his Brady decision.

                          I think he was feeling pressure from external sources about the Patriots skirting the rules (including taping the sidelines) and internal (lots of ex-AFC East people working under him). This regime is not that bright and as Tagliabue demonstrated in the Saints bounty case, Goodall doesn't understand effective leadership, he only understands public announcements of ever escalating punishments.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            Was that cited by Goodell at the time of the punishment?

                            I haven't seen it, or don't remember it. Seems too fine a point, especially since he all but ruled out team involvement in his Brady decision.

                            I think he was feeling pressure from external sources about the Patriots skirting the rules (including taping the sidelines) and internal (lots of ex-AFC East people working under him). This regime is not that bright and as Tagliabue demonstrated in the Saints bounty case, Goodall doesn't understand effective leadership, he only understands public announcements of ever escalating punishments.
                            I wouldn't have expected him to say so even if it was his reason.
                            He was simply getting tired of the Patriots coming up again and again, so he treated them more severely.

                            After all, "managing" the NFL ownership is a bit like running a nursery school for spoiled rich kids.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Patler View Post
                              I wouldn't have expected him to say so even if it was his reason.
                              He was simply getting tired of the Patriots coming up again and again, so he treated them more severely.

                              After all, "managing" the NFL ownership is a bit like running a nursery school for spoiled rich kids.
                              I don't know. He treated them very similar to the last time with a big fine and a lost draft pick (he did add a future fourth rounder).

                              The big difference this time was Brady's involvement.

                              I actually would have expected him to mention escalating punishment if he wanted to deter others. Maybe the fourth round pick was it.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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