Finish the sentence: Packers win the Super Bowl if...

[wist43]

If Seattle, Carolina, Arizona, Minnesota, New England, and Denver all take a dump.

We simply don't have the overall talent those teams do... TT being the greatest GM in the history of the league notwithstanding

[Joemailman]

If Seattle, Carolina, Arizona, Minnesota, New England, and Denver all take a dump.

We simply don't have the overall talent those teams do... TT being the greatest GM in the history of the league notwithstanding

How do you do it Wist? It's the middle of May and you're in mid-season form!

[MadtownPacker]

Davonte Adams goes out for season.

I'm a self admitted Adams fan but wishing a Packer gets hurt is a cowardly, punkass, low thing to say much less wish.

[MadtownPacker]

Easy answer to the question:

Yoko dumps Rodgers for some Hollywood Dbag and he takes it out on the NFL.

[MadtownPacker]

Hey who locked this thread? Good discussion. Did I miss something?

[Bretsky]

I'm a self admitted Adams fan but wishing a Packer gets hurt is a cowardly, punkass, low thing to say much less wish.

Mad, you are right...don't want to wish injury.....I think he really means to say...............

Devonte Adams......is CUT

I'll second that..

[woodbuck27]

Mad, you are right...don't want to wish injury.....I think he really means to say...............

Devonte Adams......is CUT

I'll second that..

I have to pat more attention to Devonte Adams.

[Pugger]

If Seattle, Carolina, Arizona, Minnesota, New England, and Denver all take a dump.

We simply don't have the overall talent those teams do... TT being the greatest GM in the history of the league notwithstanding

Then I guess we should forfeit the season seeing we have no chance against these teams and go for the #1 pick in the 2017 draft. With any luck TT and McCarthy will get their walking papers and we can start over before Rodgers retires.

[George Cumby]

Easy answer to the question:

Yoko dumps Rodgers for some Hollywood Dbag and he takes it out on the NFL.

Repped!

[wist43]

Then I guess we should forfeit the season seeing we have no chance against these teams and go for the #1 pick in the 2017 draft. With any luck TT and McCarthy will get their walking papers and we can start over before Rodgers retires.

I expect a repeat of last year for the most part.

Hopefully the offense will be better with Jordy back, but will it be enough to up end those other teams?? I doubt it...

Minnesota won the division last year - and deserved to win the division. It wasn't a fluke.

Is anyone on here prepared to argue that we're better than Carolina??

Minnesota, Detroit, and Chicago all beat us at home; Arizona stomped us 38-8 in the regular season, and then ended our season in embarrassing fashion; after the bye we went 4-6, and looked generally terrible doing it...

I don't think we've improved this year over last, at least not enough to get us over - as I said, hopefully on offense, but I also think we take might take a step or two back on defense.

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9-7, 10-6 with an early playoff exit seems likely again.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'll take Green Bay to win the division. I think the offense will rebound with Jordy and Montgomery back, Adams healthy, Cook added, and hopefully a healthier and/or deeper OL.

I've been going over rosters, and Seattle has some glaring holes. They will likely have 3 new OL. One of them is J'Marcus Webb. The other two will be rookies that I considered raw (Ifedi, Odhiambo) or a decent backup last year. The two holdovers, Garry Gilliam and Justin Britt, are moving to new positions. Gilliam was a below average RT and he's moving to LT. Britt was probably their best OL, and you'd classify him as slightly above average. He's moving to OC. They've lost Marshawn Lynch. Thomas Rawls and Jimmy Graham are coming off serious injuries and are iffy for week 1. They'll still be tough to beat because they have Russell Wilson and a great defense, but the defense has lost some good players the last couple of years (Bruce Irvin this year). Their depth is lacking (except on the DL), so there's little competition. Their backup QB is UDFA Trevone Boykin. Provided Carson Palmer stays healthy, I think Arizona will win that division again. Carolina is due for a hangover season. My early prediction is Arizona to win the NFC, Green Bay to win the division and contend, Minnesota to get a playoff spot. They are solid. I just don't like their QB much.

[vince]

Harv bringing the goods like usual.

This is a statement year for the Pack. If they go 9-7 (I don't see that at all APRH) I'd look for some fairly serious change.

Losses: B.J. Raji
Gains: Nelson, Cook, Monty, hopefully a revitalized Lacy, a healthy Cobb & Adams, Barrington, the first-second year development of the young and gifted defensive backs and Ryan, new young talent to add depth an numerous positions of need...

[Patler]

Harv bringing the goods like usual.

This is a statement year for the Pack. If they go 9-7 (I don't see that at all APRH) I'd look for some fairly serious change.

Losses: B.J. Raji
Gains: Nelson, Cook, Monty, hopefully a revitalized Lacy, a healthy Cobb & Adams, Barrington, the first-second year development of the young and gifted defensive backs and Ryan, new young talent to add depth an numerous positions of need...

You have to include Neal and Hayward as losses. Both played a lot. Jones was their leading receiver in both yards and TDs. While he doesn't feel like much of a loss, he has to be included. For that matter, Kuhn should be included, too. GB does uses a FB often, and Ripkowski played only a handful of plays.

[Carolina_Packer]

Harv bringing the goods like usual.

This is a statement year for the Pack. If they go 9-7 (I don't see that at all APRH) I'd look for some fairly serious change.

Losses: B.J. Raji
Gains: Nelson, Cook, Monty, hopefully a revitalized Lacy, a healthy Cobb & Adams, Barrington, the first-second year development of the young and gifted defensive backs and Ryan, new young talent to add depth an numerous positions of need...

Good call on Lacy, Vince. No predictions, just hope, that in a contract year he can come back more svelte and speedy, a la Le'Veon Bell after his rookie season. They are not the same back, but I still think Lacy's footwork is good enough that with a reconditioned body, and being hungry, in a different way, for a big pay day, I think he can be a key component. Lacy effort can help win the down and distance battle and keep the defense guessing on third and manageable.

[Joemailman]

I see basically everything on offense being better. Better speed at WR and TE, better productivity at RB with a more svelte Lacy. Also, MM taking over the offense after delegating too much to assistants will be a big improvement. All this should help Rodgers return to his previous form.

On defense, Raji is a loss, but Clark should be able to help there. The secondary should be better because the rookies they relied extensively last year aren't rookies anymore. The linebacker situation is a little unsettled, but adding Martinez and getting back Barrington helps at ILB. Overall, not a ton of difference than last year.