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  • #46
    Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
    I guess you're one of those who think the Packers have underperformed every year they don't win the Super Bowl. At any rate, I don't know of anyone on here who thinks injuries are the only reason the Packers didn't win it all last year. People have pointed to the play of Rogers, coaching changes that didn't work, Lacy out of shape, ILB play, etc. as well as injuries particularly at the WR position.
    Red was in favor of Ed Donatell accepting blame for the Eagles playoff loss.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
      Their defense is good now, and had the potent to be very good. However, a good run game and defense with a weak passing offense wins the Super Bowl about once every 10 years nowadays. Minnesota has about an edge in overall talent (probably not as much as wist thinks), but I think it's close enough that Rodgers will be the great equalizer.
      If you look at raw numbers from the regular season last year -stats at nfl.com - their defense was only substantially better than ours when it came to scoring D. I think our offense is better than theirs and it isn't just Rodgers.

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      • #48
        ... if Tony Horton gets Eddy Lacy into shape for him to dominate and then takes over the conditioning of the entire team. There's no stopping us then.
        All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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        • #49
          ^ Perhaps. But there will be no stopping Tony Horton from trumpeting this achievement throughout the season. I can't wait for Bob Costas to sit down with him on Sunday Night Halftime.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #50
            ...the 2015 defense and special teams show up with the 2014 offense. Unless MM screws up the last 15 minutes of the NFCCG again.
            All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

            George Orwell

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            • #51
              ...we're reasonably lucky with injuries and the defense improves.

              Might sound crazy to look at the defense but I'm not convinced 2015 was all that representative of their ability. The defense seemed to improve last year but I think this is obfuscated by a greater league-wide trend in 2015 where rules or coaching innovations or the football gods just seemed to give NFL defenses the upper hand in general. Kind of the opposite of 2011 where a handful of guys all put up MVP-worthy numbers on offense. The 2015 Packers offense was good for the Packers but relative to the rest of the league it was nothing special. I do think there's reason to expect improvement.

              On offense the 2015 level of futility and injury seems too unlikely to warrant much concern.
              70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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              • #52
                (Don't entirely believe it, but I'll throw this out there for kicks...)

                A healthy Rodgers' QB rating leads the league, and the defense leads the league in opposing QB rating. Hey, it's a passing league.

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                • #53
                  I could buy that one.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #54
                    This thread made me make an account after being a lurker hahahah.

                    Some of you are WILDLY negative, it's hysterical.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Clayish View Post
                      This thread made me make an account after being a lurker hahahah.

                      Some of you are WILDLY negative, it's hysterical.
                      don't add insults to (Packer) injuries on your first post! Here at Packerrats we are always waiting for the other shoe to drop. You can be a beacon of anti-Bostickler benevolence.
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #56
                        I think this negativity comes from our 2014 meltdown in Seattle and Rodgers lousy play - for him - last year. If AR returns to his MVP caliber play in 2016 we will be pretty tough to beat.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Clayish View Post
                          This thread made me make an account after being a lurker hahahah.

                          Some of you are WILDLY negative, it's hysterical.
                          I already like you. I think you're going to fit right in.
                          No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                          • #58
                            I thought we agreed to not talk about Seattle anymore?
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              I thought we agreed to not talk about Seattle anymore?
                              We did?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                                I already like you. I think you're going to fit right in.
                                Thank you, friend. There are certainly some characters on here.

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