he would have given his all this year, being a contract year, so they should have kept him and put the best o-line possible out there for Rodgers. now you've got a backup starting and a #3 backing him up. maybe a wise $ decision but not a good football decision.
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Since Sitton's contract is expiring at end of this season, it isn't even that compelling of a money decision, at least from cap perspective.Originally posted by gbgary View Postmaybe a wise $ decision but not a good football decision.
(What's that quote from some rich guy, "A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you are talking serious money.")
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Sure it is. That money can be used to sign other players to extensions, or the money can be carried over to next year.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View PostSince Sitton's contract is expiring at end of this season, it isn't even that compelling of a money decision, at least from cap perspective.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Although you must admit, Ted usually lets them play out that last year so he can get a pick in the compensation system. Plus, I believe they already have plenty of cap space.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostSure it is. That money can be used to sign other players to extensions, or the money can be carried over to next year.
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if he is playing on big contracts to a few of them, then the money from this year can be used to mitigate the hit.
Code:Julius Peppers OLB 36 GB TBD $10,500,000 UFA [B]T.J. Lang[/B] G 28 GB TBD $6,181,250 UFA [B]Nick Perry[/B] OLB 26 GB TBD $4,875,000 UFA [B]Jared Cook[/B] TE 29 GB TBD $2,750,000 UFA Datone Jones OLB 26 GB TBD $2,455,280 UFA [B]David Bakhtiari[/B] LT 24 GB TBD $1,784,850 UFA [B]Micah Hyde[/B] SS 25 GB TBD $1,715,527 UFA [B]Eddie Lacy[/B] RB 25 GB TBD $1,079,404 UFA [B]J.C. Tretter[/B] C 25 GB TBD $778,977 UFA Don Barclay RT 27 GB TBD $700,000 UFA
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Packers G T.J. Lang on Josh Sitton: "He loved it here. He wanted to be here. He wanted to finish his career here." So much for the theories many of you are throwing around.
Meanwhile >Jermichael Finley " You can't just let a Pro Bowler walk out the door like that. PERIOD! @jsitton71 was the BEST O-Linemen the @packers had!"
Leroy Butler added in " The shortest path to Aaron is up the middle,confused why did the packers cut JOSH SITTON. Smh "
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Agreed. Hard to imagine what Sitton could have said/done where the Packers decided they are better without him than with him. OL skill level and depth have taken a big hit, even accounting for whatever slippage Sitton has had. I normally back TT/MM but this is a headscratcher for me.Originally posted by gbgary View Posthe would have given his all this year, being a contract year, so they should have kept him and put the best o-line possible out there for Rodgers. now you've got a backup starting and a #3 backing him up. maybe a wise $ decision but not a good football decision.Go PACK
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extensions - so they can take cap space from this year to pay for contracts for future years? That sounds unlikely.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostSure it is. That money can be used to sign other players to extensions, or the money can be carried over to next year.
money carried over to next year - increased cap space for this year can be carried over to increase next year's cap?
What you are saying is passing strange, but perhaps it is right in some complicated sense.
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Could you explain this? I get that they save some money this year. What are you saying is mitigated? What "money from this year"? I get it from a profitability standpoint, but not from a cap perspective.Originally posted by pbmax View Postif he is playing on big contracts to a few of them, then the money from this year can be used to mitigate the hit.
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Doesn't change the calculus of helping sign others to extensions. That money still helps, it just lets you spend it over a longer window.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Postextensions - so they can take cap space from this year to pay for contracts for future years? That sounds unlikely.
money carried over to next year - increased cap space for this year can be carried over to increase next year's cap?Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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So money saved in 2016 (cap space, the dollars don't matter, they got plenty dollars) can pay for extensions - contracts for future years can be applied to the 2016 cap? Is this what you and that wretched postal worker are saying?
(Pretend you are talking to your mildly retarded step son. Talk slowly and use gestures.)
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Yes.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View PostSo money saved in 2016 (cap space, the dollars don't matter, they got plenty dollars) can pay for extensions - contracts for future years can be applied to the 2016 cap? Is this what you and that wretched postal worker are saying?
Cap space used to be a use it or lose it deal. There was a near end of season deadline for applying any contract extension money to the current year. It was like Week 12 or something. So if you signed Rodgers to an extension that paid him an immediate bonus (which, if you wanted to use up your cap dollars and save room going forward, you would want to do) that immediate bonus counted on the current year cap, even though the contract ran 3 more years or whatever.
So under that old system, any deal the Packers signed this year would be eligible to be paid for partly with 2016 cap room. But there was a hard deadline and agents knew it.
Now, under the new CBA, those 2016 left over cap dollars, if they exist at the end of the year, can be pushed forward to create more cap room in the following League year.
Meaning that for 2016, any contact signed during the season AND any contract agreed to next year, can be paid, in part, with the leftover cap. And Sitton's cap savings will add to that amount.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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