Josh Sitton.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Well, Taylor did at least marginally decent, and the Packers O Line in general was about the same as always. And I don't know how Sitton did for the Bears, but it wasn't enough to keep them from losing, as usual. I guess those are the two bottom lines - same ol' same ol'. Like McCarthy said and I repeated several times, O Line is not that big a priority in terms of difference-making and money-spending.

Yeah, you said as well that this game was going to be a cakewalk. So don't puff out that chest too far, Mr. Pseudo Nostradamus. LOL

[texaspackerbacker]

Yeah, you said as well that this game was going to be a cakewalk. So don't puff out that chest too far, Mr. Pseudo Nostradamus. LOL

It shoulda been hahahaha. Oh well, I'll take one out of two, and fall back on "a win is a win is a win" in the other one.

[SkinBasket]

Holy fucking shit are we screwed! Rodgers got chased, harassed, beaten and hammered relentlessly yesterday without good ol' Josh Sitton there to protect him, and Lacy couldn't gain an inch on the ground! Looks like a 2 win season fellas.

All because of Ted, and his intentional, poorly calculated, egomaniacle, sinister, satan worshipping personnel move. Motherfucker.

[Smidgeon]

Holy fucking shit are we screwed! Rodgers got chased, harassed, beaten and hammered relentlessly yesterday without good ol' Josh Sitton there to protect him, and Lacy couldn't gain an inch on the ground! Looks like a 2 win season fellas.

All because of Ted, and his intentional, poorly calculated, egomaniacle, sinister, satan worshipping personnel move. Motherfucker.

Post more.

[SkinBasket]

Post more.

Maybe. Now there's something real to post about, it's more interesting.

[hoosier]

The source said Sitton at times was a fun and engaging presence, but he also was brash and highly opinionated. He openly disparaged personnel moves, coaching decisions and his teammates’ abilities in any and every setting at the Packers’ facilities, regardless of who was in earshot. He also could be argumentative in meetings and refused to do some blocking techniques and drills on the practice field.

This is the first description I've seen of behavior that comes close to the cancer threshold. I suppose it's always possible that the source isn't conveying important context, but if this is accurate it's not hard to see why GB would want him out.

[Harlan Huckleby]

He's been with the team for 8 years. His teammates are oblivious to this cancer. The cancer suddenly metastasized on cutdown day, to the point where it was necessary to weaken the roster? People will believe what they want to believe.

[Patler]

This is the first description I've seen of behavior that comes close to the cancer threshold. I suppose it's always possible that the source isn't conveying important context, but if this is accurate it's not hard to see why GB would want him out.

Especially with the suggestion by the source that younger players were starting to mimic him.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Especially with the suggestion by the source that younger players were starting to mimic him.

The "source", who is not affiliated with the Packers, knows more than the players themselves who have spoken out? Knows more than TT, who called Sitton a "good teammate"?

People believe what they want to believe.

[Patler]

The "source", who is not affiliated with the Packers, knows more than the players themselves who have spoken out?

People believe what they want to believe.

Goes both ways. There is a lot to interpret in what players did say and not say.

As with most "investigations" there are facts, implications, historical evidence and context. The truth generally lies in the explanation that is consistent the most of the variables

[Harlan Huckleby]

Lots of information has come out recently about Sitton's behavior and personality. It's a very consistent picture, he is the gruff, plain-spoken guy who we've seen for 8 years. Bottom line is he is the good teammate that TT testified to, he cares about winning first and foremost.


I do think it is credible that MM perceived he could become a problem in the future. I doubt that was a primary consideration, but judge for yourself.

[Patler]

He's been with the team for 8 years. His teammates are oblivious to this cancer. The cancer suddenly metastasized on cutdown day, to the point where it was necessary to weaken the roster? People will believe what they want to believe.

Actually, there is a lot of consistency even from what his team mates and former team mates said and talked around without saying.

The alternative is to believe that for no reason at all, all of a sudden TT paniced (McGinn's suggestion) and acted totally contrary to what we have seen him do for the last 11 years.

[pbmax]

I had a vague recollection of something like that, and have been trying to remember who was involved. Was it DL?

I was just referring to Favre. But are you suggesting that Daryl Lasagna was a potential malcontent?

[pbmax]

Got it. I am getting old. Dougherty's source would be McCarthy's agent.

I don't know why that took so long to figure out.

[Patler]

Lots of information has come out recently about Sitton's behavior and personality. It's a very consistent picture, he is the gruff, plain-spoken guy who we've seen for 8 years. Bottom line is he is the good teammate that TT testified to, he cares about winning first and foremost.


I do think it is credible that MM perceived he could become a problem in the future. I doubt that was a primary consideration, but judge for yourself.

If Dougherty is correct, that in this camp they saw the negative aspects of Sitton being copied by younger players, it might have been a line in the sand for the coaches.

It has seemed to me since it happened, that this had more the feel of a coaches desire than a GM's decision.