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  • Originally posted by red View Post
    yeah that extra year helps a bit. 12 million would be nuts, 10 million is just a lot

    he's still overpaid IMO, but it doesn't seem as bad when you factor in that its actually 50 million over 5 years, not 4
    You probably have to include the $1.7M he was scheduled to get this year anyway. The 50-whatever million is probably in addition to that. It often is.

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    • Originally posted by red View Post
      so a quick rough guess has tretter at 6.5 to 9 million probably

      and lang maybe at 7-8 maybe

      add in bahks 10, and bulagas 7 or so. thats a ton of money for the o-line

      like i said somewhere on here, we could let lang and bulaga go, or all 3 if tretter costs that much too

      then we're back to square one and rebuilding the line
      7 million would make Tretter the 9th highest paid Center. 9 million would put him only behind Frederick. I don't think he's done anything yet to command that kind of money.

      Lang at 7-8 is probably about right. That would put him somewhere between 5-10 among Guards.

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      Last edited by Joemailman; 09-13-2016, 05:12 PM.
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      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
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      • Originally posted by red View Post
        so a quick rough guess has tretter at 6.5 to 9 million probably

        and lang maybe at 7-8 maybe

        add in bahks 10, and bulagas 7 or so. thats a ton of money for the o-line

        like i said somewhere on here, we could let lang and bulaga go, or all 3 if tretter costs that much too

        then we're back to square one and rebuilding the line
        They were going to have to rebuild the OL either way. They made the decision that they liked Bahk quite a bit more than Sitton, and the money they saved by cutting Sitton did help to resign Bahk. In that respect I can't say that I blame them. A lot rides on Taylor. If he turns out to be solid, it's a good decision. It would have allowed them to retain their good, young LT and have an affordable option at LG. It gives them options too. They could resign Tretter or Lang or they can kick Bulaga inside.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • They didn't use a 2nd and 4th round pick on Spriggs for him to be a backup. Gotta believe he'll be the RT. That would mean 1 of 4 things:

          Bulaga is gone
          Lang is gone and Bulaga moves to RG
          Bulaga moves to LG, Lang stays at RG and Taylor becomes backup.
          Lang is gone, Bulaga moves to LG and Taylor moves to RG.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • Seems to me they want to re-up Tretter. He's versatile and talented. So I think they'll go after him, then move to the defensive side of the ball to see if Perry and/or Jones is worth locking up. If they sign one or both, then they can use any chump change to see if Lang will bite.
            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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            • A lot of options. It's too early for me to have much of an opinion yet. It would be a ton of money being spent on the o-line but I think I'd rather see them sign Tretter and Lang than Tretter and Lacy. There's no clear succession plan behind Lacy other than Starks for another year and a bunch of questions but I'd still prefer to keep the line solid and get a RB in the draft if the UDFA's don't develop. Homer Alert: I think both Pressley and Don Jackson have a chance next year. Pressley has decent size and obviously can fly and I liked Jackson better than Burks going into camp. He's a bit undersized but that dude runs with some attitude.

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              • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                They didn't use a 2nd and 4th round pick on Spriggs for him to be a backup. Gotta believe he'll be the RT. That would mean 1 of 4 things:

                Bulaga is gone
                Lang is gone and Bulaga moves to RG
                Bulaga moves to LG, Lang stays at RG and Taylor becomes backup.
                Lang is gone, Bulaga moves to LG and Taylor moves to RG.
                I don't think Bulaga has ever played a full season. I don't know that they move him inside either. He seems like a good fit at RT to me. If they sign Tretter, where do they play him and Linsley? Can Tretter take over for Lang at LG?

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                • Originally posted by vince View Post
                  A lot of options. It's too early for me to have much of an opinion yet. It would be a ton of money being spent on the o-line but I think I'd rather see them sign Tretter and Lang than Tretter and Lacy. There's no clear succession plan behind Lacy other than Starks for another year and a bunch of questions but I'd still prefer to keep the line solid and get a RB in the draft if the UDFA's don't develop. Homer Alert: I think both Pressley and Don Jackson have a chance next year. Pressley has decent size and obviously can fly and I liked Jackson better than Burks going into camp. He's a bit undersized but that dude runs with some attitude.
                  Vince, wasn't it you and me who were going nuts wanting TT to draft David Johnson a year or two back? Man, if he were in green and gold now the future would look real good. He played lights out in Week One.
                  One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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                  • Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                    Vince, wasn't it you and me who were going nuts wanting TT to draft David Johnson a year or two back? Man, if he were in green and gold now the future would look real good. He played lights out in Week One.
                    Yeah I really liked him the 3rd or 4th as I recall. I think he went in the 3rd before the Packers pick - and he's better than we thought he'd be Maxie. What a stud.

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                    • Why do we think we wouldn't leave Bulaga at RT where he was a first round pick? Seems to me that Spriggs will have to earn a spot. Backup tackle appears to be his best position. He'll get in a few games at tackle when Bulaga inevitably goes down.

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                      • I think you throw draft slots out the window at this point and get your best line on the field. That may be with Spriggs at RT who's probably more nimble and long though not as strong (prototypical Tackle) as Bulaga at this stage, who's knees maybe will project him inside at some point, but that'll play itself out in good time. As you say beveaux Spriggs needs to develop and has a lot to prove yet. I think he has the tools and will develop into a starting Tackle.

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                        • Bulaga has played all 16 games once, that was his rookie year where he had 12 starts in place of Tauscher.

                          Last year he missed four games (2015) and the year before that (2014) he missed one.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • The first significant clue emerges about why Sitton was cut late:

                            “It was interesting. It was about a two-week long process, which was mind-boggling to me considering what I thought we had to get done,” Bakhtiari said in an interview on ESPN Wisconsin’s “Wilde & Tausch” that is set to air this morning. “But I’m very fortunate that the Packers were able to work with me (and we) were able to get it done and we were able to sign it the night before the game.”
                            He signed the deal Saturday the 10th. Two weeks before that is August 27th. That is one week before Sitton was cut and according to Bob McGinn, when the Packers realized they would need to do something.

                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              Bulaga has played all 16 games once, that was his rookie year where he had 12 starts in place of Tauscher.

                              Last year he missed four games (2015) and the year before that (2014) he missed one.
                              Even as a rookie, Bulaga was hampered by injuries. He was getting worked at LG with the starters and looked to have a real shot at replacing Colledge in TC, and then hurt his hip the last 10 days or so and missed the final exhibition game. As a result MM stayed with Colledge.

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                              • bump

                                this topic needs further discussion and speculation

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