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Originally posted by vince
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I think what Tex and maybe I are saying is the percentages should be reversed. What's wrong with throwing 57% of the time on 1st down -- especially considering the throw might be short to a back or a WR screen, i.e., a glorified run?One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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AR is missing open WR, can't accurately throw the deep ball for some reason and is missing slants.Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.Comment
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So middle of the pack (Top 40%).Originally posted by vince View Post
Calling a team the 13th highest when the total population is so small is misleading. Even Top 10 gets some statistical normalcy for any stat (31% of the teams are in the top 10). Anything outside the top 5 isn't really a statistical outlier. It's in the middle with some variance.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.Comment
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My answer is weak effort by the receivers. I have no idea if that is due to MM or TT or the position coach. I answered #4, TT, because it is the closest option that Bretsky provided. Maybe the players suck.Comment
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I put the blame on ARod so far this year.
I laugh to myself seeing all the people mad that Mike kicked FGs in the SEA playoff game, went for 1 against ARI to go to OT and kicked the FG against JAX are the same people that are made that Mike went for it on 4 and 2 in this game.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
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Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
Maybe every game is very different. In a close game where the offense is struggling to score, a field goal becomes more sensible. Lots of factors to consider. It is hard to see any plausible justification for MM's bonehead decision against Minnesota.
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Now a sensible personality has hijacked your thread.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post Maybe every game is very different. In a close game where the offense is struggling to score, a field goal becomes more sensible. Lots of factors to consider. It is hard to see any plausible justification for MM's bonehead decision against Minnesota.
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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Hey, I resemble that remark. Its all about context.Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostBud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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Our personnel are, for the most part, average. Add to that a stale offense, and MM's refusal to adjust, and you have a recipe for prolonged struggles and mediocrity.
Personnel: We're pretty average everywhere on offense with the exception of QB. I considered the OL to be average going into the season, but with the loss of Sitton, and the starters struggling as they are, there's no other way to look at the group as being anything but average at best.
- Our WR's are average across the board. Jordy can elevate us to above average if he returns to form, but he's on the downside of his career now, and there aren't any "up-and-comers" waiting in the wings.
- Our RB's are average. It has become such a devalued position the past 5-8 years that the term itself is probably moot. That said, MM and TT both share the blame for not being flexible enough to roster a 3rd down specialist with speed and quickness that can act as a threat out of the backfield on passing downs.
Opposing LB's don't have to concern themselves in the least with dealing with a threat out of the backfield in passing situations; hence, they are able to get good depth on their drops or drag underneath routes while the DB's have coverage over the top. It makes for some very small windows for Rodgers to throw into. This is one of MM's biggest failures as an offensive coach.
Beyond the lack of threat from the backfield on passing downs, MM has completely gotten away from west coast principles. Sitting in zones, adjusting routes, taking what the defense gives you... it all seems to be completely lost on MM.
On defense: We're not terrible on defense, and the personnel overall are probably bit better than average. Daniels has turned into a real stud, Matthews can still play, both safeties are above average, and when Shields is on the field, our corners are above average. Without Shields, everyone has to move up a spot, and we simply don't the depth/talent to maintain a high level of play with him gone.
Our LB's overall, sans Matthews, are not very good at all. Ryan and Martinez are both limited athletically and their ceilings are not high. Don't have much faith that Fackrell will develop into anything special.
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Most of that is TT's fault - but McCarthy has had a lot of input into the problems that plague our team.
TT will never change his approach, and unless MM gets his head out of his ass and changes his?? We're doomed to continue floundering like this indefinitely. Either MM has to change, or we need to start talking about overall regime change.wistComment
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I'm going to say the offensive scheme (MM). They dumbed things down a bit a few seasons back. They never try to fool anyone with their routes. They just try to win the matchups. That works great when you outmatch people. Not so well when your receivers can't run free in the secondary because they aren't that much better than the corners covering them.Comment
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ah..........keep in mind my negativity led GB to their last Super Bowl Title aka my game day prediction threadsOriginally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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Originally posted by pbmax View Post
My threads are not for the politically correct flippers; I want everybody to take a stand ! lolTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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Great. You can have the Game Day Thread on Sunday. Start thinking about why the packers will lose. Whammy II!Originally posted by Bretsky View Postah..........keep in mind my negativity led GB to their last Super Bowl Title aka my game day prediction threadsI can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
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You heard Mad, knock off the negativity now.Originally posted by Bretsky View Postah..........keep in mind my negativity led GB to their last Super Bowl Title aka my game day prediction threads
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MM needs to re examine what he's doing and then offer some sharp critiques of AROD< which may be his greatest challenge.
He's choosing to nearly go full time with 3 WR's in Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, and Devante Adams
He seems to have went away from his old forte....3 step drops and rhythym passes....many slants...back shoulder grabs. I miss that offense
And don't think he's controlling AROD well, who seems quick to bail from pocket, and wander aimlessly while the 3 WR's fail to get open.
It's time for MM to get a bit more creative, and it's time for AROD to re asset himself as top 5 QB because right now he is not one of themTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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