WHAT IS MOST AT FAULT FOR THE PACKERS SUCKING ASS AND LOSING

[Bretsky]

One more note for Shithead...aka....>THANKSTED

Don't think for one dam second you kicking our best OL f Josh Sitton to the dam curb...or worse than the curb..the flippin Chicago Bears....isn't contributing to our failures on offense

[call_me_ishmael]

I would like to see more 4 WR, some 5 WR, 2 WR with MM/Cobb in backfield, etc.

It sure doesn't feel like they're a hurry up, fast moving, high powered offense, does it?

[Bretsky]

It seems like MM if failing miserably in his creativity......how about Randall in the backfield and the others in a 4 wide....or add Abby and Cook to that package instead of Montgomery.....maybe players can get consistently open then and allow AROD to get into a good rhythym.......................

QUESTION FOR YALL.................HOW MANY GAMES HAS IT BEEN SINCE AROD had a 100 QB RATING ????????????????????????

The answer might scare you.

[Joemailman]

One more note for Shithead...aka....>THANKSTED

Don't think for one dam second you kicking our best OL f Josh Sitton to the dam curb...or worse than the curb..the flippin Chicago Bears....isn't contributing to our failures on offense

Based on what? The offense doesn't look different without Sitton than it did last year with him. Taylor isn't as good as Sitton, bur Guard play isn't what has ailed this offense for the last 14 games.

[pbmax]

One more note for Shithead...aka....>THANKSTED

Don't think for one dam second you kicking our best OL f Josh Sitton to the dam curb...or worse than the curb..the flippin Chicago Bears....isn't contributing to our failures on offense

Its not. Taylor is actually playing pretty well.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Its not. Taylor is actually playing pretty well.

At this point, the problem might be getting the line cohesive. I remember one play in particular from Sunday, where the Vikes rushed five against our five and instead of blocking one on one, our Olinemen doubled-teamed two Vikings unnecessarily, leaving two others totally unblocked with a clear path to Arod who, as usual, had to bail too early. Obvious communication/familiarity problem.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Our personnel are, for the most part, average. Add to that a stale offense, and MM's refusal to adjust, and you have a recipe for prolonged struggles and mediocrity.

Personnel: We're pretty average everywhere on offense with the exception of QB. I considered the OL to be average going into the season, but with the loss of Sitton, and the starters struggling as they are, there's no other way to look at the group as being anything but average at best.

- Our WR's are average across the board. Jordy can elevate us to above average if he returns to form, but he's on the downside of his career now, and there aren't any "up-and-comers" waiting in the wings.

- Our RB's are average. It has become such a devalued position the past 5-8 years that the term itself is probably moot. That said, MM and TT both share the blame for not being flexible enough to roster a 3rd down specialist with speed and quickness that can act as a threat out of the backfield on passing downs.

Opposing LB's don't have to concern themselves in the least with dealing with a threat out of the backfield in passing situations; hence, they are able to get good depth on their drops or drag underneath routes while the DB's have coverage over the top. It makes for some very small windows for Rodgers to throw into. This is one of MM's biggest failures as an offensive coach.

Beyond the lack of threat from the backfield on passing downs, MM has completely gotten away from west coast principles. Sitting in zones, adjusting routes, taking what the defense gives you... it all seems to be completely lost on MM.

On defense: We're not terrible on defense, and the personnel overall are probably bit better than average. Daniels has turned into a real stud, Matthews can still play, both safeties are above average, and when Shields is on the field, our corners are above average. Without Shields, everyone has to move up a spot, and we simply don't the depth/talent to maintain a high level of play with him gone.

Our LB's overall, sans Matthews, are not very good at all. Ryan and Martinez are both limited athletically and their ceilings are not high. Don't have much faith that Fackrell will develop into anything special.

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Most of that is TT's fault - but McCarthy has had a lot of input into the problems that plague our team.

TT will never change his approach, and unless MM gets his head out of his ass and changes his?? We're doomed to continue floundering like this indefinitely. Either MM has to change, or we need to start talking about overall regime change.

A very well thought out post wist and not one mention of Spraypainthair. I think your comments about the RBs and thus the effect by the opposing LBs are fantastic.

[red]

MM needs to re examine what he's doing and then offer some sharp critiques of AROD< which may be his greatest challenge.

He's choosing to nearly go full time with 3 WR's in Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, and Devante Adams
He seems to have went away from his old forte....3 step drops and rhythym passes....many slants...back shoulder grabs. I miss that offense
And don't think he's controlling AROD well, who seems quick to bail from pocket, and wander aimlessly while the 3 WR's fail to get open.

It's time for MM to get a bit more creative, and it's time for AROD to re asset himself as top 5 QB because right now he is not one of them

That's probably something they should have done in the preseason/off season. Not now

No excuse for not seeing the problem was there last year, And not doing anything to fix it

[Bretsky]

At this point, the problem might be getting the line cohesive. I remember one play in particular from Sunday, where the Vikes rushed five against our five and instead of blocking one on one, our Olinemen doubled-teamed two Vikings unnecessarily, leaving two others totally unblocked with a clear path to Arod who, as usual, had to bail too early. Obvious communication/familiarity problem.

[RashanGary]

Aaron has been bad for 14 games in a row. He holds the ball. He doesn't adapt. He's stubborn. He needs this media butt chewing. He's stubborn as fuck. It might take him a couple more games to surrender and just do regular things right again.

[RashanGary]

Listening to his presser right now. He's been a great player, but boy he deserves this. It reminds me to stay humble. I can be good at things I do. I need to stay humble and coachable in life. Seeing him defensive and edgy, when it's happening to me, I never feel like I deserve it, but seeing him get it, he does deserve it and I do sometimes too. This is good for him!

[Bretsky]

Aaron has been bad for 14 games in a row. He holds the ball. He doesn't adapt. He's stubborn. He needs this media butt chewing. He's stubborn as fuck. It might take him a couple more games to surrender and just do regular things right again.

You answered my trivia question; it's been 14 games since AROD had a QB rating of 100
that was shocking when I heard that

[wpony]

I wish you would have other had other up there to I blame both McCarthy and Cappers and the reason is McCarthy almost never plays the starting players enough in preseason you can see it every yr. we start the first few games slow then about the 3rd or 4th game we come together and we are usually almost unstoppable for the rest of the yr. and that correlates with the length of a normal preseason ,
I have hated it ever since we cut down the preseason the players dont get enough work to get them selves into football condition they can come in all strong and ready to hit the weights or run but nothing gets them ready to play like hitting each other in practice they have to loosen there bodies up to get away from injuries in the long run they are coming in wound up strong but not but like Rodgers said last yr. relax LOL , just two or 3 more games of preseason games during the season and as long as Cappers quits putting 8 in the box and letting their QB throw play catch but dont worry at least we have there run stopped we would have even made Bridgewater a HOLF QB That last game and i think he is a fine QB for thier system just really hated to see the Packers make the vikings passing game look fantastic this week.
Against Carolina i predict Carolina and there good defense will sack Bradford 4 times with 3 picks..
Sorry Raf I am really not trying to put down your Vikingsjust putting down McCarthys preason plan and C.appers ruffusing to change and getting out coached on D again and again and again.

[Radagast]

IMO , the lack of speed has hurt the GB Offense the most . Lacy has strength but lacks real speed. WR Nelson and TE Cooks have good hands but lack speed. Cobb is a WR2 at best and does not have have lightning speed. WR (Stone Hands) Adams, well ... Aaron Rodgers does not have the foot speed that he once had, but if his personal had more speed that might not be an issue .

Did I mention that GB has lacked speed !

[Anti-Polar Bear]

IMO , the lack of speed has hurt the GB Offense the most . Lacy has strength but lacks real speed. WR Nelson and TE Cooks have good hands but lack speed. Cobb is a WR2 at best and does not have have lightning speed. WR (Stone Hands) Adams, well ... Aaron Rodgers does not have the foot speed that he once had, but if his personal had more speed that might not be an issue .

Did I mention that GB has lacked speed !

Worry not. Janis is our lord and savior. Just wait til J-Jan loses the boxing glove.