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  • #31
    Originally posted by King Friday View Post
    This is why I despise Twitter and social media in general. The critiques are so varied at this point that claiming that most are wrong is an incredibly safe statement that will easily be proven correct. This isn't useful information. I also don't get the part of it being too early to discuss offensive woes. We've seen with all the stats that have been thrown out just on this forum that this is almost a full season's worth of games in the making. How is that "too early" to discuss what is happening with the offense?
    Twitter critiques, yes, but Brown actually writes pretty authoritatively on the subject of play design and offensive construction.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
      Hey pb, here's another great article with supporting film that I don't know if you've seen: http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/20...ocket-presence

      The title of the article says Arod is "playing scared." I think that's BS, but the play discussed does show Arod's habit of bailing into scramble mode to make a big play at the expense of taking what the defense gives you: a sure bet 1st down.

      The irony is if Arod would be thrown the ball short to Davis the odds are real good that Davis would have taken it to the house! The article also gives credit to Stubby for these types of plays, it's just that we aren't seeing enough of them (Davis played five snaps).
      As closely scrutinized as the games and players are now on television, a quick check of the "sphincter cam" should tell the world whether Arod is playing scared or not.
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
        I think they used to use more timing plays to set up this homerun style of offense. Now it is all homerun style and that is not sustainable.

        Also this is a great find, thanks!
        pretty much.

        we also used to be good a PAP and spreading out the defense and running the ball on quick hitters, not these long drawn out pitches w/ slow backs.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Fritz View Post
          As closely scrutinized as the games and players are now on television, a quick check of the "sphincter cam" should tell the world whether Arod is playing scared or not.
          That is not a camera shot, it can only be shown as a a NextGen stat: the external anal sphincter contraction coefficient, or EASC.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            Twitter critiques, yes, but Brown actually writes pretty authoritatively on the subject of play design and offensive construction.
            Agreed. He's got an extensive knowledge of most offensive systems past and present.

            It's interesting that he says it's too early.
            When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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            • #36
              Did we not run a more timing oriented offense when we had better receivers, Jennings, Jones, Jordy, Driver? Now, we have arguably worse receivers and expect more of them. How can Tom Brady miss a season or a few games and you not even notice? Because of the timing take the easy play offense. Flashy? No, but it sure wins a lot of games.

              Rodgers used to be amazing against the blitz. Near the top if not the best in the league. This year, he is atrocious. It's because he doesn't take the open guy, because our routes apparently are not designed to even have an open guy.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by channtheman View Post
                Did we not run a more timing oriented offense when we had better receivers, Jennings, Jones, Jordy, Driver? Now, we have arguably worse receivers and expect more of them. How can Tom Brady miss a season or a few games and you not even notice? Because of the timing take the easy play offense. Flashy? No, but it sure wins a lot of games.

                Rodgers used to be amazing against the blitz. Near the top if not the best in the league. This year, he is atrocious. It's because he doesn't take the open guy, because our routes apparently are not designed to even have an open guy.
                Its a weird evolution, but the offense from 2010-2013 did start to show signs of wear and tear. It had big trouble versus good corners (Seattle) and versus Cover 2 man under. It needed tweaks, but this has taken a bad turn.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by vince View Post
                  Agreed. Hopefully the running and quicker-release timing-based passing games take hold. Otherwise we could see more of the same. Forcing rodgers to speed things up and dictate less at the line will hopefully help that.
                  I think Maxie used to work for a power company and was making an electricity pun...
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                  Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                    I think Maxie used to work for a power company and was making an electricity pun...
                    Guilty as charged. I apologize, Vince.
                    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                    John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                    • #40
                      This article, almost certainly, will be garbage



                      I would confirm its garbage, buts its behind their Insider paywall. But I bet it will be garbage.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        This article, almost certainly, will be garbage



                        I would confirm its garbage, buts its behind their Insider paywall. But I bet it will be garbage.
                        My guess: it either provides an illuminating diagnosis (Rodgers is in a slump) or it offers an original explanation for the diagnosis (Rodgers's inaccuracy is a result of Steve Sax syndrome).

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                        • #42
                          Maybe it is the Steve Sax syndrome. He missed Jared Cook when there was nobody around Rodgers at all, on a pass in which Cook was about seven yards away from him. Who knows?
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            Maybe it is the Steve Sax syndrome. He missed Jared Cook when there was nobody around Rodgers at all, on a pass in which Cook was about seven yards away from him. Who knows?
                            Maybe the ball was wet and it slipped out of his hand. To fix it Rodgers needs to do way more of those wet ball drills.
                            One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                            John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              This article, almost certainly, will be garbage



                              I would confirm its garbage, buts its behind their Insider paywall. But I bet it will be garbage.
                              It is pretty garbage. It's deep on stats (YPA, DYAR) without any real analysis as to why it has happened or how to get out of it.
                              Go PACK

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Bossman641 View Post
                                It is pretty garbage. It's deep on stats (YPA, DYAR) without any real analysis as to why it has happened or how to get out of it.
                                You have confirmed it is indeed Garbage. Thank you.
                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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