Official Packers vs. Colts game thread

[yetisnowman]

They have never taken what the defense gives them short. They will always look to go deep if there is single coverage somewhere. That is the entire design of the offense.

Its also part of what is broken right now because the deep ball isn't working.

I don't think Aaron has accepted that Jordy is not the same player he used to be. Throwing a jumpball to him doesn't have the success rate it used to. So many times Aaron threw mid-deep throws into tight single coverage when underneath throws were open. He even tried a jumpball to Allison in the redzone when multiple underneath throws were open. And when is he is looking deep, then occasionally someone is open deep. The problem is he is innaccurate on those throws 9 out of 10 times.

[pbmax]

If they are doing it in a game, (stopping and looking) they are more than likely doing it in practice. Why hasn't coaching dealt with it there?

I have no idea. Its baffling. Some of it is the route, lotta interior routes turn back to QB regardless of which offense is running it.

Some of this is an editorial decision by TV, how many outlets show you the full play in order to demonstrate who is open? And the deep guys usually keep going.

Probably has more to do with number of incomplete plays (plus Rodgers running) than anything else.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.rotoworld.com/boxscore/nfl/9/8997/GB-vs-IND

The game stat's.

Jordan Todman's efforts on KO Returns (160 yards) and contribution on ultimate offense stands out as a big plus for Indy.

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/11/07/ugly-home-losses-lack-of-juice-put-mike-mccarthy-firmly-on-the-hot-seat/

Aaron Rodgers calls out the Packers but who was he targeting?

[Pugger]

They have never taken what the defense gives them short. They will always look to go deep if there is single coverage somewhere. That is the entire design of the offense.

Its also part of what is broken right now because the deep ball isn't working.

Well, that offensive scheme doesn't fit the players we have right now. Jordy isn't as fast as he once was. None of our WRs have any speed besides Janis who screws up too much and Davis is a raw rookie who is too small right now.

[pbmax]

This is where the problem becomes chicken and egg. Rodgers has had open WRs deep. He has missed several. Several have been dropped. Some have been very close to completion by off by a tiny fraction so that its hard to assign blame.

If you hit those, like he did in Atlanta early, then the offense looks completely different.

His line yesterday was 94.8 rating, 26/43 for 60.5% for 297yards and 6.9 per attempt. It was all short ball with no YAC, and despite being short ball, the completion percentage was pretty low.

What's missing? Easy in rhythm throws for YAC, big plays (to bring Y/A up) and better red zone production.

None of it is a catastrophe, which is why the inability of fix it for 20 games is mind numbing.

[beveaux1]

It may be that because we are so close to hitting those quick strikes, MM and AR keep trying them and keep the iso routes as the staple of the offense.

It's just hard to believe that almost everyone sees this as a problem and he hasn't completely changed his approach.

[denverYooper]

It may be that because we are so close to hitting those quick strikes, MM and AR keep trying them and keep the iso routes as the staple of the offense.

It's just hard to believe that almost everyone sees this as a problem and he hasn't completely changed his approach.

The frustrating thing to me is that he has partially changed his approach to suit his current offense's abilities but cannot resist going back to what he really wants to be able to do.

[pbmax]

The frustrating thing to me is that he has partially changed his approach to suit his current offense's abilities but cannot resist going back to what he really wants to be able to do.

Part of it has to be retraining the QB as well. There is always someone running deep to occupy a safety, so that choice can always be made. Need to train to get away from it while working on rest of offense.

[Patler]

Part of it has to be retraining the QB as well. There is always someone running deep to occupy a safety, so that choice can always be made. Need to train to get away from it while working on rest of offense.

Yup, it that ingrained decision making that gives you an overthrow to a fairly well covered Geranimo Allison at the back of the endzone when there is a wide open Davis(?) 10 yards away.

[denverYooper]

Good point.

[woodbuck27]

It may be that because we are so close to hitting those quick strikes, MM and AR keep trying them and keep the iso routes as the staple of the offense.

It's just hard to believe that almost everyone sees this as a problem and he hasn't completely changed his approach.

MM is a very stubborn man otherwise that might be interpreted as dumb.