Official FIRE Mike McCarthy thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[red]

This is the part of screaming for the coach's head I love. Fire the guy who has been the second best coach for a decade.

Then afterward find someone better.

Much prefer the Steelers approach. Force the current guy to get better. Hire new OC. Shakeup defense.

if you've had a car for 20 years, and call it old relable, but one day the engine blows and the axles fall off, it might be time for a new car

[Anti-Polar Bear]

TT can also GTFO.

Agree.

[Patler]

I think it is possible a change is needed. I suggested earlier this year that MM may have begun to lose the veterans in the way he handled the Seattle playoff loss. He gave them a good plan to win the game, but then seemed to give away control to lose the game. Now, he has gone nearly 20 games without an answer for the offense. He has fired and replaced more coordinators and assistant coaches than is typical, but not much has improved on defense or special teams. infrequent good years, but overall mediocrity for both.

That said, I'm not much interested in any of the recycled head coaches who have been mentioned.

[Smidgeon]

This is the part of screaming for the coach's head I love. Fire the guy who has been the second best coach for a decade.

Then afterward find someone better.

Much prefer the Steelers approach. Force the current guy to get better. Hire new OC. Shakeup defense.

I also don't get the "Fire Capers" thing this year. Down as many starters as he is, starting Gunter and Goodson for a couple games--their #4 and #5 CBs, without Matthews due to a balky hamstring, losing their leading tackler yesterday, etc. Before yesterday, their losses were by 3, 14 (the league best Cowboys), 1, and 5. In other words, they were blown out twice including yesterday which was by far the most points they gave up. They had (might still have) the best run defense in the NFL and not because teams didn't try (although some teams got away from it).

The defense is breaking down because the pass rushers are broken down (Matthews' hamstring, Peppers' age, Perry's double teams, Fackrell's rookieness, Elliot's limitations) and because the pass defense is injured (Shields and Randall are still out), leaving the super-raw CBs in coverage. Perrish Cox is a wiley vet. He got his ankles broken three times that I can remember yesterday against the Packers but still ended up making very key plays down the stretch. Can you imagine Gunter, Rollins, or Goodson successfully doing any of that? The talent on defense is injured. The talent on offense is either injured or deficient.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

If Cowher hasn't come out of retirement yet for all of the other jobs that have been thrown at him, the Packers won't even register on his radar.

The team might be able to lure an even better candidate to Green Bay, Josh McDaniels, by offering a $5M-plus annual salary and the GM title.

Replace two birds with one stone, as the saying goes.

[arcilite]

Absolutely no way should we also give a coach GM powers again. It's a disaster. BB might be the only one who kind of makes it work.


If we get rid of TT, easy choice is have Wolf replace him. Have Wolf bring in his guy.

[Patler]

Absolutely no way should we also give a coach GM powers again. It's a disaster. BB might be the only one who kind of makes it work.

I sometimes feel that BB the head coach wins in spite of the GM he is burdened with!

[Teamcheez1]

Absolutely no way should we also give a coach GM powers again. It's a disaster. BB might be the only one who kind of makes it work.


If we get rid of TT, easy choice is have Wolf replace him. Have Wolf bring in his guy.

This could be the way the Packers go. Bring in a new GM (Wolf or otherwise), and let him decide the route we should take with the coach. MM might get another year to "coach for his job" in that scenario.

[hoosier]

The team might be able to lure an even better candidate to Green Bay, Josh McDaniels, by offering a $5M-plus annual salary and the GM title.

Replace two birds with one stone, as the saying goes.

That's a great idea. Let's trade Rodgers and sign Tebow and Orton while we're at it.

[Patler]

This could be the way the Packers go. Bring in a new GM (Wolf or otherwise), and let him decide the route we should take with the coach. MM might get another year to "coach for his job" in that scenario.

If the Packers have already decided on Wolf as the eventual replacement for TT, they could replace MM now, and simply rely heavily on Wolf when picking the replacement. Kind of the best of two worlds, let Wolf more or less pick the HC, yet give Wolf an easy out to fire the guy in a few years if Wolf takes over and the coach is less than stellar.

[arcilite]

I sometimes feel that BB the head coach wins in spite of the GM he is burdened with!

I agree. I'm sure there were many Pats fans between 2005-2013 that called for BB to be stripped of GM duties. He can't draft a WR to save his life.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Absolutely no way should we also give a coach GM powers again. It's a disaster. BB might be the only one who kind of makes it work.


If we get rid of TT, easy choice is have Wolf replace him. Have Wolf bring in his guy.

The last time the Pack had a GM, slash, coach running the show, that GM/Coach won 44 regular season games in 4 years, and he NEVER missed the playoffs.

Disaster? You don't know disaster! 4-12 was a disaster. 6-10 a season after reaching the NFC Title game was a disaster. THIS season is a disaster.

Someone, I think my archenemy not named the Kentucky - pbmax - once said just cos the junior Wolf has the Wolf name doesn't mean he automatically will be Wolf-with-the-Pack good (Wolf was awful in Tampa). I agree.

J-Mac holds a PhD in Belichickology. Learned from his mistakes in Denver. Now less arrogant. J-Mac could make the Packers great again.

[pbmax]

if you've had a car for 20 years, and call it old relable, but one day the engine blows and the axles fall off, it might be time for a new car

Perhaps, all things must come to an end. But only Thompson knows if McCarthy is spent.

[pbmax]

The last time the Pack had a GM, slash, coach running the show, that GM/Coach won 44 regular season games in 4 years, and he NEVER missed the playoffs.

Disaster? You don't know disaster! 4-12 was a disaster. 6-10 a season after reaching the NFC Title game was a disaster. THIS season is a disaster.

Someone, I think my archenemy not named the Kentucky - pbmax - once said just cos the junior Wolf has the Wolf name doesn't mean he automatically will be Wolf-with-the-Pack good (Wolf was awful in Tampa). I agree.

J-Mac holds a PhD in Belichickology. Learned from his mistakes in Denver. Now less arrogant. J-Mac could make the Packers great again.

Tauscher said on the radio yesterday that Sherman was clearly overwhelmed by both jobs. If everyone inside the building could see it, its pretty damning.

Also a 4 year run of playoff participation is chump change compared to McCarthy.

[TravisWilliams23]

McDaniels is doing what he's best at doing right now. Some guys are just good at one thing and can't handle the whole show.
Examples: Buddy Ryan, Wade Phillips, Norv Turner, Todd Haley, Dave Wannstedt, Phil Bengsten, Jim Shwartz, etc.
From what I've watched and read about Josh, he's not head coaching material.
Here's a funny clip of his stint at Denver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr7T_jcXmT4