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  • As I said in my post above, Tex, I agree with you. I don't think it's Capers's fault that his players can't cover or get to the passer. I don't think it's a scheme problem.
    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

    KYPack

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    • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
      As I said in my post above, Tex, I agree with you. I don't think it's Capers's fault that his players can't cover or get to the passer. I don't think it's a scheme problem.
      Who called a Cover 0 blitz on 3rd and long (might have been 2nd and long) in OT versus the Seahawks that allowed a long Seattle TD to win the game with no safety deep (NFC Championship Game)?

      Everyone has their hand in these failures. Neither one is incompetent. Capers and Thompson don't need to be replaced, they need to find a way to work more seamlessly together. Capers has taken WAY too long to adjust to draft and develop rather than hang on to veterans.

      Thompson (and also possibly Capers/Whitt) cannot find corners who can play zone reliably.

      Roughly, I think that is why the offense tends to start off with a bang and the defense tends to get better recently. Last year was a weird aberration.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • My point would be that it wasn't the call, it was the execution. On a blitz, Wilson shouldn't have time to let his receiver go...and go....and go....and go....

        I don't want Thompson replaced; you know that. I want him to get two big playmakers for this defense.
        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

        KYPack

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        • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
          My point would be that it wasn't the call, it was the execution. On a blitz, Wilson shouldn't have time to let his receiver go...and go....and go....and go....

          I don't want Thompson replaced; you know that. I want him to get two big playmakers for this defense.
          I know you don't. But sometimes blitzes don't get home and sometimes players don't make the play.

          This is the adjustment that he and Thompson must make. Sometime you gotta be able to play coverage and it might be a good idea to mix man and zone. But somehow the Packers just can't manage it.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
            My point would be that it wasn't the call, it was the execution. On a blitz, Wilson shouldn't have time to let his receiver go...and go....and go....and go....

            I don't want Thompson replaced; you know that. I want him to get two big playmakers for this defense.
            Trade in Gramps for Eliot !
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
              As I said in my post above, Tex, I agree with you. I don't think it's Capers's fault that his players can't cover or get to the passer. I don't think it's a scheme problem.
              It's not just a matter of No Blame, though. It's the schemes that MAKE the defense right now. Without all that trickery and compensation, we would be a helluva lot worse than we are. As for the times when we get exposed like pbmax mentioned, that's kinda the price you pay - sometimes the other guys outguess you. It's better IMO than playing them straight up and getting beat consistently by teams with better offensive personnel than we have on D.
              What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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              • I shake my head sometimes. I was looking at a mock draft on NFL.com. They had the Packers taking Shaquill Griffin. I see the NFL comparison is Ladarius Gunter. Makes sense, I thought. I looked at Griffin's 40 time... 4.38.
                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                • If by that, they mean Griffin is instinctive and a good coverage guy, he sounds like a good pick. Gunter a damn decent even being fairly slow, and you take somebody with similar skills and 4.38 speed, and that's one helluva Corner.
                  What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                  • They must be mocking solely off combine results. Despite testing well, Griffin is listed as anywhere from R3 to R6 on most of the other draft sites. Taking him R1 would have a horde of GB fans yelling "reach!" and getting their pitchforks and torches.

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                    • I think I woud be okay with something like this....

                      29: EDGE T.J. WATT - WISCONSIN
                      61: CB FABIAN MOREAU - UCLA
                      93: G DANNY ISIDORA - MIAMI (FLA.)
                      134: RB SAMAJE PERINE - OKLAHOMA or D'ONTA FOREMAN TEXAS
                      172: EDGE DAWUANE SMOOT - ILLINOIS
                      182: DL CHARLES WALKER - OKLAHOMA
                      212: TE ERIC SAUBERT - DRAKE
                      247: LB BEN BOULWARE - CLEMSON
                      Last edited by jklowan; 04-16-2017, 09:13 AM.

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                      • Originally posted by jklowan View Post
                        I think I woud be okay with something like this....

                        29: EDGE T.J. WATT - WISCONSIN
                        61: CB FABIAN MOREAU - UCLA
                        93: G DANNY ISIDORA - MIAMI (FLA.)
                        134: RB SAMAJE PERINE - OKLAHOMA or D'ONTA FOREMAN TEXAS
                        172: EDGE DAWUANE SMOOT - ILLINOIS
                        182: DL CHARLES WALKER - OKLAHOMA
                        212: TE ERIC SAUBERT - DRAKE
                        247: LB BEN BOULWARE - CLEMSON


                        KUDOS !!!! This would be a fabulous draft !!!!!!!
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • i really don't like the fact that we've brought in all the top RB prospects

                          if we draft one in the first 2 or 3 rounds i'm gonna be furious

                          people keep saying that RB isn't a big hole for the team right now, yet we're taking a nice hard look at all the top ones

                          if we do draft one early it will be a total fail on TT's part. it will be nothing more then trying to go cheap at a position, when we have tons of free cap space, when we have much greater needs

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                          • Bet we draft two RBs this year. One in the 4th and one in the 6th or 7th

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                            • Originally posted by red View Post
                              i really don't like the fact that we've brought in all the top RB prospects

                              if we draft one in the first 2 or 3 rounds i'm gonna be furious

                              people keep saying that RB isn't a big hole for the team right now, yet we're taking a nice hard look at all the top ones

                              if we do draft one early it will be a total fail on TT's part. it will be nothing more then trying to go cheap at a position, when we have tons of free cap space, when we have much greater needs
                              Who have they brought in beside Mixon?
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                Who have they brought in beside Mixon?
                                don't know, there were 4 or 5 or so rb's that they've talked too, and it might have just been meetings like at the senior bowl or combine

                                i saw it on walter football, but the site isn't cooperating right now, under the prospect visit tracker

                                but cook was also one of the names for sure

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