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    Ty Dunne Brings Hammer Down On Rodgers

    Can Aaron Rodgers Be the Type of Leader the Packers Need?
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2676645-can-aaron-rodgers-be-the-type-of-leader-the-packers-need
    GREEN BAY, Wisc. — Roaring boos filled the house of Curly and Lombardi and Reggie and Favre on the night of November 6. Give your team's "owners" a diet of New Glarus Spotted Cow beer, bratwursts and abhorrent football, and of course they'll turn on you.


    Pretty sure Ty won't be coming back to Green Bay or Milwaukee for a job soon.

    Bad examples: J Finley didn't have Rodgers phone number, considers him a bad leader. Fired a business manager he has known since he was a kid.

    Good examples: No longer has relationship with family. DJ Williams and Desmond Bishop think Finley is full of manure, but admit the QB can be hard on teammates. He loves LeTroy Guion. Adams and Janis agree that screwing up will put you in the doghouse. Missed a grandfathers funeral. Sent Christmas presents back to givers. Family not welcome in Green Bay. Skipped a buddy's wedding with a text.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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    Not a good look for Aaron. The whole family thing is weird. One would think if there is a group of people you can count on that won't try to take advantage of your wealth, it'd be them. Super strange.

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      Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
      Not a good look for Aaron. The whole family thing is weird. One would think if there is a group of people you can count on that won't try to take advantage of your wealth, it'd be them. Super strange.
      He has one brother who has failed in a couple of jobs. The older one I think. So I can see him being a leech. And his younger brother now seems to be set on being a celebrity after being a QB didn't work out. So I can see the possible conflicts in each case of trying to cash in on the name and relationship.

      But not sure how that involves the parents, unless its an argument ABOUT the brothers.

      But this isn't much different than many players. That is why they setup a bogus Foundation to solve muscle cramps and put the family on the payroll.

      Of course you never know. Tyron Smith had to seek the protection of the team from his family.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #4
        I don't see what the big deal is either way. Why do we need our sports stars to be great people too?

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        • #5
          Rodgers getting the Favre treatment now. Welcome to the extended success club, AR. Haters gonna hate.
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #6
            Makes me a bigger fan. Rooting against ass holes like Dunne every day.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #7
              I hadn't read it when I posted the first time. Now I've read it. I have no way of knowing what goes on in Rodgers's personal life and how much credibility should be given to the idea that he's self-absorbed and vindictive, versus just competitive and holding his teammates to a high standard. What surprises me is that Dunne, who struck me as a reasonably intelligent journalist, would buy whole-hog into the idea that moral character translates into performance on the field, or that if Rodgers is having difficulties with his family then those problems will sooner or later disrupt his QB play. If he hasn't spoken with his family for two years then presumably there have been issues for longer. So shouldn't he have started to crater in 2014 instead of putting up MVP numbers that year? Dunne's perspective is symptomatic of how our society uses sports to reassure itself that reality adheres to a moral code.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                I don't see what the big deal is either way. Why do we need our sports stars to be great people too?
                No we don't, though its nice if they are.

                But this is getting published on the hook that he personal difficulty is causing the on field difficulty. Under the very broad mantle of leadership, Dunne links the family situation to his playing and leadership with quotes from two people: former friend and former teammate.

                A teammate who was mostly know for being immature and a head case.

                If the Packers were 7-2, or Rodgers was playing 10% better, this doesn't see the light of day.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                  http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...e-packers-need

                  Pretty sure Ty won't be coming back to Green Bay or Milwaukee for a job soon.

                  Bad examples: J Finley didn't have Rodgers phone number, considers him a bad leader. Fired a business manager he has known since he was a kid.

                  Good examples: No longer has relationship with family. DJ Williams and Desmond Bishop think Finley is full of manure, but admit the QB can be hard on teammates. He loves LeTroy Guion. Adams and Janis agree that screwing up will put you in the doghouse. Missed a grandfathers funeral. Sent Christmas presents back to givers. Family not welcome in Green Bay. Skipped a buddy's wedding with a text.
                  Good read. Dunn's a damn good journalist. If he wants to come back to dull and dark Green Bay to cover the Packers again, there's a job waiting for him, I am sure. Gannett should trade the entire GBPG crew for Dunn, although Dougherty ain't bad.

                  I read the article in its entirety, and nowhere is there anything about anyone referring to J-Mike as full of shit. You sure you're not just stating your biased opinion?

                  I was the president of the J-Mike fan club, but I gotta disagree with J-Mike about Rodgers needing to be rah-rah, ala, Philips Rivers. Actions speak louder than words, says Shakespeare.

                  I do think Rodgers needs to get his professional shit together, though. And he's got to learn how to win in the fucking clutch! Rodgers' personal shit is none of anyone's b's, although folks like Tex and Tony O'Day might find the fact that Rodgers is dating an Asian chick disgusting.
                  Last edited by Guest; 11-18-2016, 10:51 AM.

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                  • #10
                    who's to say he doesn't have high moral character? we're not in Rodgers' shoes. there may be reasons for what he does that we'd all agree with if we knew the situation. that said i wish the ass-hole would start playing at the pre-2015 level. lol
                    Last edited by gbgary; 11-18-2016, 01:58 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                      Makes me a bigger fan. Rooting against ass holes like Dunne every day.
                      Exactly
                      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                        I read the article in its entirety, and nowhere is there anything about anyone referring to J-Mike as full of shit. You sure you're not just stating your biased opinion?
                        Originally posted by Headcase Finley
                        "In my opinion, he's a different guy," Finley said. "I didn't really know how he showed his leadership. He wasn't a vocal guy. He really wasn't a hands-on guy. To tell you the truth, it was all about his game and his stats in my opinion. … He was a guy that kept it all in. He kept grudges close to his chest. If you did something, he never really let it go. He always kept it close to his heart...

                        quarterbacks who lead vocally. That's what he wanted in Green Bay...

                        He's not a guy who hangs out with the fellas...

                        No, the tight end doesn't believe Rodgers has it in him.
                        No sir, he said. Not one little centimeter ...
                        No, Ty Dunne did not reveal who gave him quotes, so no one called out Finley. But they rebutted his charges none-the-less.

                        1. DJ Williams: texted "Happy Birthday" to a former third-string tight end who caught nine passes in Green Bay
                        . . To Williams, Rodgers is sensitive but in a more comical way.
                        . . Rodgers is a "take care of business" leader, Williams said, not a "get in your face" leader.
                        . . "You can never go out with Aaron Rodgers and have a casual day of a leisure activity,"
                        2. Guion: dress up as a Jedi for defensive tackle Letroy Guion's Halloween bash at Bleu Restaurant in De Pere
                        . . He is the leader of this team
                        . . He attacks his profession like a maniac, a savant, "a wizard," Guion says
                        3. Bach: join offensive linemen for Thursday night dinners
                        4. Bishop: Once, Rodgers thwarted the defense with that same fake spike. Right then, the defense learned a valuable lesson. (that Cowboys fell for from Steelers)
                        . . "His competitive fire was always so high," Bishop said. "That was infectious to everybody else. That's the kind of leader he is.
                        . . Bishop is "100 percent confident" this mentality alone will pull the Packers out of their slump.
                        5. Adams: "There might be some words," Adams said. "There might be a look. But it's communicated either way. He's animated. He's colorful. It's not something we're ever worried about. I'm the same way."
                        6. Janis: But two weeks ago, the quarterback also pulled players aside to say he's only this hard on them "to be perfect, to be great." "To hear him say that," Janis said, "makes you realize he's not yelling at you just to yell."
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #13


                          I read that article, too. Look at the YouTube video. Sure, he may do some PR/image things, but his compassion looks like it comes naturally, whatever that means to leadership, I don't know. There are other videos in the right hand side of the screen if the watch the one above from YouTube.com None of us are perfect, but I think he's a good guy. Don't know about the family rift, but it's none of my damn business, I know that.


                          Remember, he doesn't have to do this. He chooses to do this, and I don't think it's to just form an image. I think he gets it and he cares.
                          "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                          • #14
                            wether he's a dick because of this or not, it doesn't seem like he has anyone left close to him, and i think we've found the main reason for him having changed over the last year

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                            • #15
                              So he hasn't talked to his family in over 2 years. Does that more or less coincide with him taking up with Olivia?

                              We need a title for this Packer soap opera.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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