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  • #31
    I am ok with this year. Maybe it shows that we can't always build through the draft. Perfect Signings would be a shut down CB and a decent Vet backup, the rest of the defense would be just fine with NFL level CBs. On offense we need a 16 game RB and a new High End WR. How have the Packers not had an Amazing WR in a long time? Sterling Sharpe Maybe? Call up Megatron
    Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by red View Post
      so, taking a flyer on a 6th round comp pick is trying to realistically fix a major problem to you?
      By itself, no. But they used a 3rd round pick on Rodgers the year before, and as a rookie he showed some promise. Backman's forte was supposed to be running and receiving, so using a 6th on him was giving themselves another option, just like the FA signings of so many players that have gone on to contribute for them. There are a lot of positions on the team and only a few draft picks. Building a roster is a lot about numbers, bring in a bunch and see which turn out best. Using a 6th is a lot better than wiating to see what is left after the draft is done and the remaining players scatter.


      Originally posted by red View Post
      who was this magical TE they had in 2014 that they had for the super bowl? quarless? this is a perfect example of a guy who never was good enough and should have been replaced much earlier then he was. but because he was a TT draft pick, he was made a major factor of the team. even if he never deserved it
      Every SB team has players like that. The point is Quarless was good enough to get by with in 2010, Without injuries, he might have been there blocking TE in 2014. He had gotten decent at that before the knee injury.


      Originally posted by red View Post
      most people thought that finelys career was over in 2013, especially after the nick collins injury where the team WOULDN"T bring him back after the exact same injury, even though nick was cleared to play. you might have held out hope in 2014, but the team knew he was done with them in 2013. plus he was a free agent anyways

      and i'm one of those that didn't think jermichael was anywhere near as good as he made himself out to be, maybe we shouldn't have settled with him either. to me, he's just another in a long line of packer players that never came close to realizing their potential
      I have never been a huge Finley fan either. Unmet potential like so many others, I agree; but he had his moments. They tried to find a guy to replace/complement Finley, but never did. They drafted a Mackey Award winner whose strength was as a receiver, but he bombed out too. The constantly brought in fast guys with the hope one would emerge. No one did.

      A third round pick in 2014 is a significant commitment, and that was the first post-Finley season. Giving him 2015 to be the guy was OK with me, he just didn't become it. They didn't sit on their hands with that, signing Cook this year.

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      • #33
        draft and develop is fine in three cases to me...
        1) if you're a shit team and totally rebuilding starting rookies out of necessity,
        2) if you have a stacked team and the ones being developed are 2s, 3s, 4s, working their way up.
        3) if a rookie is a clear upgrade from what's there, stacked team or not.
        NOT someone thrown in as a starter because a position was gutted as a cost-cutting move. if you're not advancing you're standing still or falling behind. after standing still for a couple of years they're falling behind the last two and teetering on becoming that shit team totally rebuilding.

        if i thought about it longer there might be a 4th case but then it would become the "the spanish inquisision." lol

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        • #34
          The Broncos are doing all they can to disprove the wisdom of selling out for one season.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Zool View Post
            Hey Tank, how is 2009 treating you? You getting close to the 2010s yet? It's a fun decade, you should come try it out.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
              Yup. I'm arguing they should do more of that and sooner. How long has Finley been gone? How many years have we been trying to replace him with a draftee? Same with Tremontana. Same with Jennings? Same with ILB. Now, if Shields and Lacy aren't coming back, do we draft a couple of kids and wait four years? Or do we sign a vet?
              Unfortunately somebody thought Rich Rod would take Finley's place. Yikes.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                Like signing Jared Cook?
                Yes, and not drafting dipshits like the Plodder.......
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                  Yup. I'm arguing they should do more of that and sooner. How long has Finley been gone? How many years have we been trying to replace him with a draftee? Same with Tremontana. Same with Jennings? Same with ILB. Now, if Shields and Lacy aren't coming back, do we draft a couple of kids and wait four years? Or do we sign a vet?

                  REMEMBER when a few had the PIPE dream that GB would sign Matt Forte ?? He'd have looked good this yr
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    The Broncos are doing all they can to disprove the wisdom of selling out for one season.
                    Confused on what this means........didn't they just win a SB by selling out ? And if they had a QB they'd be much improved but they seem to have a nice foundation
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                      Unfortunately somebody thought Rich Rod would take Finley's place. Yikes.
                      What a pissaway pick for round 3; that was not hard to call on draft day
                      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                        Unfortunately somebody thought Rich Rod would take Finley's place. Yikes.
                        now dick rod would be just fine if he was the 6th round comp pick

                        but like B just said, he's not that great for a 3rd round pick. although he has been a bit better this year, at least he's finally getting some YAC. he's like the king of the 4 yard catch

                        and lets not forget, a lot of people thought he was a pretty big reach in the third
                        Last edited by red; 11-28-2016, 07:18 PM.

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                        • #42
                          Yes, Rodgers was drafted too high. The fact is the Packers made a significant commitment to replace Finley, it just didn't work. Lots and lots of GMs have missed on draft picks.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by red View Post
                            now dick rod would be just fine if he was the 6th round comp pick

                            but like B just said, he's not that great for a 3rd round pick. although he has been a bit better this year, at least he's finally getting some YAC. he's like the king of the 4 yard catch

                            and lets not forget, a lot of people thought he was a pretty big reach in the third
                            Rodgers had a ton of opportunity last year, and was unable to do anything much with it. He looks much different this year both physically and performance-wise. I wonder what he might have been like with last year's opportunities and this year's body and conditioning.

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                            • #44
                              Adams is leading the packers in yards receiving right now. He runs the best slant route on the team. Looks good after the catch too.
                              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                                Adams is leading the packers in yards receiving right now. He runs the best slant route on the team. Looks good after the catch too.
                                Just average deep speed, but pretty quick in the 10-15 yard range. And he can use that big body to shield defenders away from the ball.
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