BEARS' WRITERS DOWN ON THEIR WR's. INTERESTING ARTICLE.

[Dabaddestbear]

GB is definitely better at WR. The Bears don't have a single guy who is a complete, quality starter. We have one for sure, and maybe two.

Moose was a player once, but is rumored to be washed up. DD is clearly better.

Bradley was a rookie dynamo last year---just like Jennings this year---but then Bradley blew out a knee. Coming off this serious injury, he is a question mark. I'd take Jennings over him at this point any day of the week.

Gage=Fergie.

Currie & Berrain can't seem to stay healthy. A WR does a fat lot of good for your team if he is standing on the sideline in street clothes. I'll take a healthy Ruvell Martin over this two-man M.A.S.H. unit.

Davis is raw and inexperienced and he's played less WR than Will Blackmon. Blackmon and/or Charles Woodson as emergency WRs are at least as dependable as this guy.

Berrian got an TD and Martin got----hold on did he even get a catch?..lol
Moose got it done and beat Harris consistantly.

My points stand.

Berrian got lucky and cashed in a gift from our defense. Any WR in the league would have scored the TD on that broken play---including Martin. Berrian was shut out after that. In any case, I don't doubt he has some talent ... I doubt his ability to stay healthy. What do you suppose is the over/under on how many games Berrian plays before sitting out at least one game due to injury? I'd put it at about 8, and I'll take the under.

Moose has disappeared in 4 of the past 5 seasons. He had a good game this week, but will he keep it up? History suggests not. Driver had a pretty good game too, and we can reasonably expect that to continue.

There is always going to be broken plays. Good teams and players capitalize on them and BAD teams and players specialize in being a part of them(broken plays). Berrian wasnt shut out your coverage played deep on him and left everything underneath to Moose and the Clark. One good deep pass is all you need to make a secondary respect you deep.

I understand you are looking for reasons as to why the Bears are somehow smoke and mirrors. Its like that girl you always had a crush on that you felt you had every chance in the world to score with her until she just walked up to you and slap you in your damn face and said "You are the ugliest dumb summabitch I ever new". Your hopes fade and reality sinks in that hey---life sucks!

[ahaha]

This has to be the worst receiving corp in the NFL. Although, San Francisco fans might argue with me on this one. No matter how good you're defense is, you still need some play-makers on offense if you're going to go deep in the play-offs.

Ok, if this is the worst WR, corp in the NFL what does that make your defense and secondary? To get to the playoffs you must first win in the regular season. Today was a start. And once again crow is served to the misinformed Packer fan.

I'll admit that the Bears might not have the worst WR's in the NFL, but how the hell does that make me misinformed? Do you think this one game proves you have decent receivers? By that rationale, you could point to the packer's performance against the Saints last year and say they were dominant at all positions. Obviously that wasn't the case.
The story of this game was Grossman looking good, the Bears defense dominating on third down, and the Bears special teams making ours look silly.
By your one game theory of evalution you must be worried about a few things. Ahman was able to run well on your defense. And, before you say he did that against a defense trying to stop the pass, realize that he was averaging over 4 ypc going into the fourth quarter, before things got completely out of hand. Also, your running game couldn't get much going, even though they were playing against constant 7 man fronts. 36 carries, quite a bit, for 109 yds and a 3.0 average. Blah.
So, by your rationale, if you thought Jones and Benson were going to run all over the Pack, then you must be "misinformed" too.
Trying to predict the future makes everybody look silly.

[Dabaddestbear]

I'll admit that the Bears might not have the worst WR's in the NFL, but how the hell does that make me misinformed? Do you think this one game proves you have decent receivers? By that rationale, you could point to the packer's performance against the Saints last year and say they were dominant at all positions. Obviously that wasn't the case.
The story of this game was Grossman looking good, the Bears defense dominating on third down, and the Bears special teams making ours look silly.

I was judging the Bears from what I have seen in practice and preseason before the game even took place. The game only put more validity in what I was already preaching.

By your one game theory of evalution you must be worried about a few things. Ahman was able to run well on your defense. And, before you say he did that against a defense trying to stop the pass, realize that he was averaging over 4 ypc going into the fourth quarter, before things got completely out of hand.

This game was out of hand by the second half and they were still running on what should have been obvious pass plays. The game was spiraling out of control not because of what the scoreboard showed but because the Packers defense could not stop the Bears offense moving up and down the field. The Bears squandered some redzone oppurtunities but they were there all game. The Packers coaching was more than terrible. If the Packers running game was so good then whay didnt they ever score? or ever even reach the redzone? Why, because even the coaching staff knows that when the Bears had run defense was on the field the Packers got zilch and was consistnetly slammed in the backfield.

Also, your running game couldn't get much going, even though they were playing against constant 7 man fronts. 36 carries, quite a bit, for 109 yds and a 3.0 average. Blah.
So, by your rationale, if you thought Jones and Benson were going to run all over the Pack, then you must be "misinformed" too.
Trying to predict the future makes everybody look silly.

say it with me boys and girls-----THE BEARS DIDNT HAVE TO RUN CUZ THEY COULD PASS. They used the running game in spots mainly to set up the playaction. I predicted they would do this and they did excatly that. And the LB's and DB's fell for it everytime.

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Also, your running game couldn't get much going, even though they were playing against constant 7 man fronts. 36 carries, quite a bit, for 109 yds and a 3.0 average. Blah.
So, by your rationale, if you thought Jones and Benson were going to run all over the Pack, then you must be "misinformed" too.
Trying to predict the future makes everybody look silly.

say it with me boys and girls-----THE BEARS DIDNT HAVE TO RUN CUZ THEY COULD PASS. They used the running game in spots mainly to set up the playaction. I predicted they would do this and they did excatly that. And the LB's and DB's fell for it everytime.

Well you've had some pretty good posts so far today, but this one sucks. 36 times is alot of carries. The one aspect of the game yesterday that was actually not horrible was the Packers run D. Kampman, Pickett and Hawk played well.

More drag downs by Barnett, but he still played ok. I wish to God he would cover the backs better in the flats. If the TE runs out, Popps is going to run with him and you have the RB on that side. Please cover him. Thank you.

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I'll admit that the Bears might not have the worst WR's in the NFL, but how the hell does that make me misinformed? Do you think this one game proves you have decent receivers? By that rationale, you could point to the packer's performance against the Saints last year and say they were dominant at all positions. Obviously that wasn't the case.
The story of this game was Grossman looking good, the Bears defense dominating on third down, and the Bears special teams making ours look silly.

I was judging the Bears from what I have seen in practice and preseason before the game even took place. The game only put more validity in what I was already preaching.

Your brilliant insight saw the crappy and sloppy play in training camp and thought it was gold? That's Kool-Aid, and one game still doesn't validify it.

By your one game theory of evalution you must be worried about a few things. Ahman was able to run well on your defense. And, before you say he did that against a defense trying to stop the pass, realize that he was averaging over 4 ypc going into the fourth quarter, before things got completely out of hand.

This game was out of hand by the second half and they were still running on what should have been obvious pass plays. The game was spiraling out of control not because of what the scoreboard showed but because the Packers defense could not stop the Bears offense moving up and down the field. The Bears squandered some redzone oppurtunities but they were there all game. The Packers coaching was more than terrible. If the Packers running game was so good then whay didnt they ever score? or ever even reach the redzone? Why, because even the coaching staff knows that when the Bears had run defense was on the field the Packers got zilch and was consistnetly slammed in the backfield.[/quote]

You're coming around to my way of thinking. My point was how one game doesn't mean your receivers are any good. I set this example of how the Bears weren't so solid in run defense, so therefore, by your evaluation standards, they must be shaky in that area.

Also, your running game couldn't get much going, even though they were playing against constant 7 man fronts. 36 carries, quite a bit, for 109 yds and a 3.0 average. Blah.
So, by your rationale, if you thought Jones and Benson were going to run all over the Pack, then you must be "misinformed" too.
Trying to predict the future makes everybody look silly.

say it with me boys and girls-----THE BEARS DIDNT HAVE TO RUN CUZ THEY COULD PASS. They used the running game in spots mainly to set up the playaction. I predicted they would do this and they did excatly that. And the LB's and DB's fell for it everytime.[/quote]Yes, they didn't have to run because the passing game was working. But, they still tried to(36 carries) with little effect. Does that mean the Bears running game is going to suck all year? I don't think so, but by your standards of judgment, they will.

[Dabaddestbear]

Yes, they didn't have to run because the passing game was working. But, they still tried to(36 carries) with little effect. Does that mean the Bears running game is going to suck all year? I don't think so, but by your standards of judgment, they will.

They ran the rest of the game and the entire 4th quarter as to not get anyone hurt and keep the clock running. The carries was shared between 3 backs.

[Dabaddestbear]

This has to be the worst receiving corp in the NFL. Although, San Francisco fans might argue with me on this one. No matter how good you're defense is, you still need some play-makers on offense if you're going to go deep in the play-offs.

This so called WR' corps has showed more than half of the WR's in the league. Berrian has showed up as the deep threat I told you all about and Moose and the TE's have been very consistant. Eating crow yet?

[Dabaddestbear]

call me crazy, but if you looked at our WR corp, you'd probably think the same...Driver, only proven guy liek Muhammad....Jennings, just like Bradley....Fergy, just like Justin Gage, has a boat load a potential, but where? and the Martin, just like all the rest of their guys, he's the WHO? guy.

I think you give way too much credit to Muhammad. He was considered "washed up" years ago. Then he had an amazing comeback season, just in time to get a nice free-agent contract from a receiver-desperate team. And, Jennings hasn't played a regular season game yet, but at this point, if you were a scout, who would you like better...Jennings or Bradley. IMO Jennings, hands down.
But, now that I think about it.....San Francisco probably has the worst receivers.

Bradley is not the #2 Berrian has been since opening kickoff. And there is no scout out there that will take Jennings over the Bears #2 Berrian.
Man arent you full off of crow yet?

[Dabaddestbear]

Driver is a better receiver the Muhammad.

Bradley has good potential. I know we all like Jennings, but he has to prove it in a regular season game. Is Bradley fully healthy though? I know he had an injury, but I haven't heard if he's 100%.

The rest of the wideouts are a wash, but Green Bay has a big edge at the TE position.

Ahhh, I like serving up crow to all that talk out the side of their mouths.
Next up...HarveyBangyaHead against the wall and kill yourself cuz The Bears TE's have killed in back to back games and the Packers TE's are just extra bodies on the field.

[lord favre]

Driver is a better receiver the Muhammad.

Bradley has good potential. I know we all like Jennings, but he has to prove it in a regular season game. Is Bradley fully healthy though? I know he had an injury, but I haven't heard if he's 100%.

The rest of the wideouts are a wash, but Green Bay has a big edge at the TE position.

Ahhh, I like serving up crow to all that talk out the side of their mouths.
Next up...HarveyBangyaHead against the wall and kill yourself cuz The Bears TE's have killed in back to back games and the Packers TE's are just extra bodies on the field.

You fool, it's not that the Bears receivers are better, it's that the bears have a much better QB throwing them the ball.The Bears TE's and their 4 td;'s are in no way shape or form better than Franks and Martin, see how Franks cries at the end of the games? It's because he is a warrior and a great TE. Berrian also couldn't even hold Jennings jockstrap, just ask any scout in the league, those tough catches over the middle, the long TD catches are just abberations. Don't get me started on how much Moose sucks, especially when you compare him to a future HOF'er like Driver...

[Dabaddestbear]

Driver > Muhammed - Driver is more proven to be a #1--and MuHammed hasnt?
Jennings > Bradley - Better hands, more home run potential, YACWTF is homerun potential? He aint did squat and besides you are comparing him to the Bears #3 WR...lol
Ferguson < Gage - If this were a competition of who could be covered the most, Fergy would win.Man your logic gets more flawed the more you type...lol
Martin > Berrian - Ruvell has the hands, and is much more of a threat in the redzone, strictly speaking from a 4th reciever standpoint Ruvell is 10X betterLOL...ARE YOU SERIOUS! How many yards, catches and TD's do Martin has? Man you by far the most troubled Packer fan on here by far.
??? < Currie - Currie wins by default seeing as we don't have a fifth option.
Franks >> Clark - Better Hands, more of a targetuh, like the Berrian argument ---WTF has Franks did this season but block? we have 3 different TE's that has produced for us in these past two games.
Martin/Lee > Gilmore/Reid - More "potential" to be a threatsee above rebuttal
Green = Jones/Benson
Gado/Herron << Jones/Benson/Peterson
Henderson >>>> McKieMcKie stands out more than Henderson all day

both running games is nothing to write home about but the Bears passing game has been so solid who cares?

OL - Bears
WR's - Packerssee above
TE's - Packerssee above
RB's - Bears
QB - Packersuh, whos rating is better and what QB has been more better?

Packers + 3
Bears + 2

The OL is the thing that matters. A shoddy O-line can make Brett look like Rex, just the same way the lack of a pass rush can make Rex look like a hall of famer.

With this said I still think we win this one. Hopefully Woodson will prove his elite status on Sunday and force Grossman to throw to his 3rd and 4th checks. With Grossman dumping it off to his back-ups it gives our LB's the chance to lay some wood, and also gives our D-line time to get to him. hopefully our Safeties can prove their worth too.

All in all, it'll be a fun game to see how our starters hold up throughout 4 quarters. The good thing about playing the Bears is your team is never out of the game.

Go Pack.

Just had to come back to serve you more crow just for the heck of it....lol

[Dabaddestbear]

My points stand.

Berrian got lucky and cashed in a gift from our defense. Any WR in the league would have scored the TD on that broken play---including Martin. Berrian was shut out after that. In any case, I don't doubt he has some talent ... I doubt his ability to stay healthy. What do you suppose is the over/under on how many games Berrian plays before sitting out at least one game due to injury? I'd put it at about 8, and I'll take the under.

Moose has disappeared in 4 of the past 5 seasons. He had a good game this week, but will he keep it up? History suggests not. Driver had a pretty good game too, and we can reasonably expect that to continue.

I need to ask Berrian for that 4leaf clover he keeps in his back pocket then..lol. By the way Moose is keeping it up like Viagra---Still.

[lord favre]

The good thing about playing the Bears is your team is never out of the game.
Go Pack.

Yeah, 2 games and the Bears really had to sweat out the outcome, good thing about playing the bears is that you're never out of the game...until the second quarter starts...

[Dabaddestbear]

Driver is a better receiver the Muhammad.

Bradley has good potential. I know we all like Jennings, but he has to prove it in a regular season game. Is Bradley fully healthy though? I know he had an injury, but I haven't heard if he's 100%.

The rest of the wideouts are a wash, but Green Bay has a big edge at the TE position.

Ahhh, I like serving up crow to all that talk out the side of their mouths.
Next up...HarveyBangyaHead against the wall and kill yourself cuz The Bears TE's have killed in back to back games and the Packers TE's are just extra bodies on the field.

You fool, it's not that the Bears receivers are better, it's that the bears have a much better QB throwing them the ball.The Bears TE's and their 4 td;'s are in no way shape or form better than Franks and Martin, see how Franks cries at the end of the games? It's because he is a warrior and a great TE. Berrian also couldn't even hold Jennings jockstrap, just ask any scout in the league, those tough catches over the middle, the long TD catches are just abberations. Don't get me started on how much Moose sucks, especially when you compare him to a future HOF'er like Driver...

Is that what that crying was? I always thought after I beat the crap out of someone they would cry cuz they were hurt and didnt want no more. Jennings over Berrian...LOL! Show me a recent scout clip with a link that would say so. Man did you have too many to drink after the lost today?

[lord favre]

Driver is a better receiver the Muhammad.

Bradley has good potential. I know we all like Jennings, but he has to prove it in a regular season game. Is Bradley fully healthy though? I know he had an injury, but I haven't heard if he's 100%.

The rest of the wideouts are a wash, but Green Bay has a big edge at the TE position.

Ahhh, I like serving up crow to all that talk out the side of their mouths.
Next up...HarveyBangyaHead against the wall and kill yourself cuz The Bears TE's have killed in back to back games and the Packers TE's are just extra bodies on the field.

You fool, it's not that the Bears receivers are better, it's that the bears have a much better QB throwing them the ball.The Bears TE's and their 4 td;'s are in no way shape or form better than Franks and Martin, see how Franks cries at the end of the games? It's because he is a warrior and a great TE. Berrian also couldn't even hold Jennings jockstrap, just ask any scout in the league, those tough catches over the middle, the long TD catches are just abberations. Don't get me started on how much Moose sucks, especially when you compare him to a future HOF'er like Driver...

Is that what that crying was? I always thought after I beat the crap out of someone they would cry cuz they were hurt and didnt want no more. Jennings over Berrian...LOL! Show me a recent scout clip with a link that would say so. Man did you have too many to drink after the lost today?

Wow, umm the sarcasm meter store called and said yours is fixed and ready for pick up, not a moment to soon either.








































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