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WHY ARE THE PACKERS ALLOWING ELIOT WOLF TO INTERVIEW.........INTERESTING STUFF
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I've got age spots older than 63.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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Originally posted by Patler View PostDoes Dorsey have full roster control, or does he share that with Reid or Hunt?
I'm not sure Dorsey would even be interested in coming back. When he left he said KC had always been a dream job for him and his wife. She is from there, has lots of family in the area, went to school there, including law school, and worked for a KC law firm even when they lived in Green Bay.
Interesting. It seems to be working but I would think that heirarchy has some political minefields in it. When they don't win do the coach and GM both run to the owner blaming the other?Dorsey will report directly to Hunt, just as Pioli and other GMs have in the past. But during a massive overhaul of the Chiefs' front office, the chairman said he's altering the organizational structure so Reid also reports directly to him.
In the past, Chiefs coaches always reported to the general manager.
"The general manager has say over personnel. The coach has say over coaching the football team. And I want them to be able to work together," Hunt said. "That's the most important thing."
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Pretty sure Reid got full roster control when he was hired. Dorsey came on board later.Originally posted by Patler View PostDoes Dorsey have full roster control, or does he share that with Reid or Hunt?
I'm not sure Dorsey would even be interested in coming back. When he left he said KC had always been a dream job for him and his wife. She is from there, has lots of family in the area, went to school there, including law school, and worked for a KC law firm even when they lived in Green Bay.
OK, he came on board after Reid but there is this from ESPN on the hire:
Hunt and Reid both insisted that the coach will not have final say on personnel decisions, and that the general manager will be responsible for building a winning roster.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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And you (your avatar) look older than Ted. Hiring Junior right now would be the impulsive thing to do, and therefore it would almost certainly turn out to be wrong. Even if young Elliot does in fact have the wherewithall to become a good GM, he needs to experience the world a little before he settles down. Hiring him to replace Ted--and, by extension, dear old Dad--would be setting him up to fail. Hire Schneidely and let Wolf go blaze his own trail before bringing him back.Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View PostI've got age spots older than 63.
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Yea... like Elliot Wolfe is going to sign a contract elsewhere with this clause written in:Originally posted by Bretsky View PostThat would be awesome !
It would also be awesome if we could hire John Schneider, John Dorsey, or Reggie McKenzie
But we probably can't
`` I will remain this teams GM unless the Green Bay Packers come calling or otherwise. ``
** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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Nailed it....John Dorsey will remain in Kansas City (wife).Originally posted by Patler View PostDoes Dorsey have full roster control, or does he share that with Reid or Hunt?
I'm not sure Dorsey would even be interested in coming back. When he left he said KC had always been a dream job for him and his wife. She is from there, has lots of family in the area, went to school there, including law school, and worked for a KC law firm even when they lived in Green Bay.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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To be a good GM, draft a top 5 QB. Done.Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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Why would you say old pedophiles have no charisma? That's how they get those kids in the first place. That, and the candy. It sure isn't the rusty white van.Originally posted by 3irty1 View PostHow much does MM factor into these moves?
The way I see it no non-Ted GM will have the Packer capitol to get rid of MM. Yet MM is what 55? Its likely our next GM will get MM until MM hangs up his clipboard. Without an opportunity to pick our next coach, our next GM is both hampered and pampered by effectively being a dedicated roster guy. That could be 10 years of training wheels which may be fine for a baby like Eliot but in the meantime the only benefit to the team over Ted is however more effective the next guy is with the roster. If you're Bretsky and believe the optimal NFL offseason looks like it does in Madden, there is vast room for improvement over Ted so bring it on. To those who are less reactionary and see roster building as a set of tradeoffs, improving on Ted would be a pleasant surprise.
Personally I fall in the second camp, I think the worst thing about Ted, other than his having the charisma of an old pedophile, is MM (although I do like MM). And since I believe it'll take Ted or MM to get rid of MM, Ted has a decisive advantage over anyone else until MM is gone. Therefore, a bird in the hand is still worth two in the bush. I'm content to set our beloved Eliot go, if he doesn't come back may his teams forever blow.
As for your other points, they are excellent.
I do, however, have the solution to all this: when TT retires, give MM the reins as both GM and coach. That'll work for sure!"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Fresh new intrigue this morning by Ian Rappaport.Originally posted by Patler View PostDoes Dorsey have full roster control, or does he share that with Reid or Hunt?
I'm not sure Dorsey would even be interested in coming back. When he left he said KC had always been a dream job for him and his wife. She is from there, has lots of family in the area, went to school there, including law school, and worked for a KC law firm even when they lived in Green Bay.
My guess is this is being floated by Dorsey's agent.
Dorsey, a former Packers player who cut his teeth in Green Bay under Hall of Fame architect Ron Wolf, has not yet signed a contract extension, sources said. He's in the final year of his deal, potentially opening the door to him leaving what he helped build in Kansas City to work at Lambeau Field.
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I almost didn't get your sarcasm there and was going to excoriate you for a fool. Assuming that WAS sarcasm......Originally posted by Fritz View PostWhy would you say old pedophiles have no charisma? That's how they get those kids in the first place. That, and the candy. It sure isn't the rusty white van.
As for your other points, they are excellent.
I do, however, have the solution to all this: when TT retires, give MM the reins as both GM and coach. That'll work for sure!
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Oops. I forget we have youngsters in the crowd. Max McGee's nickname was "Maxie the Taxi."Originally posted by Carolina_Packer View PostThe avatar is a picture of Max McGee. I used to love hearing Jim and Max do radio play by play.
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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