Geronimo Allison Charged With Misdemeanor Possession

[Patler]

Bush
Jones
Guion
Pennel
Goodson
Pennel
Allison

all within the last two years. There is a problem that needs to be addressed.

[Der Lehrer]

Absolutely. We need these people using prescription opioids to help their aches and pains instead of natural remedies.

[Smidgeon]

Bush
Jones
Guion
Pennel
Goodson
Pennel
Allison

all within the last two years. There is a problem that needs to be addressed.

What's going on with that d-line? 4 of the 7 (Jones, Pennel, Guion, Pennel)

[Guiness]

Bush
Jones
Guion
Pennel
Goodson
Pennel
Allison

all within the last two years. There is a problem that needs to be addressed.

Trying to decide if you're being sarcastic or not. I strongly suspect so, but anyways...

There is a problem. With NFL's unwavering conservative stance because old guys in suits think it will affect their brand to do otherwise.

Football players need pain meds. Lot of news about people dying of opiod OD these days...weed OD, not so much.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I don't think today's athletes abuse "substances" with any more frequency or intensity than yesterday's athletes abused alcohol. Max McGee and Hornung regularly violated curfew to spend the night out drinking. McGee was even made an icon because of his Super Bowl performance with a hangover.

The difference between today and yesterday is: yesterday's media didn't report on such things either because it just wasn't done in those days or because half the press also abused alcohol AND, frankly, yesterday's athletes may have been more naive about some stuff, but they were a whole lot smarter than today's idiots. To call today's college players "student" athletes is a joke.

And before anyone says I'm generalizing, yes I am speaking in generalities. I'm not saying every player nowadays is an idiot...just that IMO there's a whole lot more idiots today than yesterday.

[woodbuck27]

I put this in the category of Little Debbies snack cakes. Athletes should not be filling their bellies with junk food or their lungs with smoke. You need every edge you can get.

God knows I live a clean life.

Just what I need ....some excellent humor.

Hahahahahahaha

[woodbuck27]

[Patler]

I don't think today's athletes abuse "substances" with any more frequency or intensity than yesterday's athletes abused alcohol. Max McGee and Hornung regularly violated curfew to spend the night out drinking. McGee was even made an icon because of his Super Bowl performance with a hangover.

The difference between today and yesterday is: yesterday's media didn't report on such things either because it just wasn't done in those days or because half the press also abused alcohol AND, frankly, yesterday's athletes may have been more naive about some stuff, but they were a whole lot smarter than today's idiots. To call today's college players "student" athletes is a joke.

And before anyone says I'm generalizing, yes I am speaking in generalities. I'm not saying every player nowadays is an idiot...just that IMO there's a whole lot more idiots today than yesterday.

All true, but drinking was/is legal, and so long as it doesn't lead to an addiction or other acts that are illegal, the league doesn't care.
On the other hand, drug use in different forms is illegal and does run afoul of league rules.

Whether we think marijuana should or shouldn't be legal doesn't matter. Whether or not we think it is a preferable pain treatment doesn't matter. What does matter is that a player chose do do something he knew could get him suspended, AND was so stupid/careless about it that he was caught.

His stupidity bothers me more than his use.

[Zool]

Whether we think marijuana should or shouldn't be legal doesn't matter. Whether or not we think it is a preferable pain treatment doesn't matter.

I agree with this in this instance, but it's a mentality that needs to shift in the country. But the DEA is a big money business as are prisons, so marijuana remains illegal.

[Maxie the Taxi]

All true, but drinking was/is legal, and so long as it doesn't lead to an addiction or other acts that are illegal, the league doesn't care.
On the other hand, drug use in different forms is illegal and does run afoul of league rules.

Whether we think marijuana should or shouldn't be legal doesn't matter. Whether or not we think it is a preferable pain treatment doesn't matter. What does matter is that a player chose do do something he knew could get him suspended, AND was so stupid/careless about it that he was caught.

His stupidity bothers me more than his use.

Yeah, that was my main point too. The legal/illegal thing doesn't hold to well considering that it wasn't uncommon for players to get DUI's then, but it wasn't all that big a deal then. Plus, they WERE breaking Lombardi's curfew rules, but Lombardi looked the other way because McGee and Hornung were key players and favorites.

[pbmax]

I agree with this in this instance, but it's a mentality that needs to shift in the country. But the DEA is a big money business as are prisons, so marijuana remains illegal.

I have less of a problem with guys that are not busted out in public like Allison, Guion and Jones. Don't be that dumb.

However, I am not sure its a huge improvement not to be able to decipher the testing schedule and get busted through testing (Bush, Pennel).

Should it be changed, sure, that's fine. But it hasn't yet.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Pack will keep him, let the NFL fine/suspend him and then get him into treatment, say they are behind him and move on. That is, until he's caught again and then they cut him and move on.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I think it would be a mistake to not make reference to cultural changes in the US between now and then when thinking about this stuff.

Back in the day alcohol abuse was pretty much accepted and swept under the rug. DUI offenders were hard to convict because jurists had the attitude of "there by the grace of God go I." Today's culture is now hyper-sensitive to substance abuse including alcohol.

Gambling in the day might be a better analogy to today's substance abuse hypersensitivity. Hornung and Karras were suspend for a year for gambling small amounts. Pete Rose too, was severely punished, although he gambled bigger amounts. These guys could be criticized for being foolish, but I don't think you could argue they were stupid. I think they knew what they did violated policy and could carry consequences, but they figured they were too smart to get caught. I think today many of these athletes don't even stop to think because it just doesn't occur to them.

[MadScientist]

Pack will keep him, let the NFL fine/suspend him and then get him into treatment, say they are behind him and move on. That is, until he's caught again and then they cut him and move on.

At most this is a first time non-PED, so I'm not sure they can suspend him, or even fine him. I think this will place him in the program, subjecting him to frequent random tests, with a suspension if he tests positive.

Given the nature of the policy he might already have been discharged from stage 1 (it is only 90 days). Here's a clear description of the NFL's policy: http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com...ryant-steelers

It's minor, but just plain stupid.

[George Cumby]

First, I didn't know Woody was a stoner. But after reflecting on ihis posting history, it should have been obvious that he has partaken in more that's just a little MJ.

The Feds are lagging behind the states on this issue. Within 10 years the majority of the states are going to legalize it for recreational use and the Feds and the NFL will have to follow.