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  • The Elephant In The Room

    Just how long will we waste Rodgers' talent by having a terrible DC & defensive staff? How many times can 'lack of communication' be an excuse for this secondary?
    The game has clearly passed Capers by - who is out there?
    Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

  • #2
    I do think it's time for a change. How many playoff games has this defense given up 30+ points? Eeesh.

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    • #3
      This defense has been dreadful all year and we still made the Final 4. I hope Dom retires and McCoach looks outside the organization for a new DC. We don't need the '85 Bears but even a slightly better than average D would be good enough.

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      • #4
        When you have to rely on an undrafted kid like Gunter to cover Julio Jones...who is arguably the most physically talented receiver in the entire league...it doesn't matter who your DC is.

        Your argument that Capers should be put to pasture may have merit, but that is hardly the reason we lost this game. We had the talent on the offensive side of the ball to be able to do better than a huge goose egg on the board at halftime. If Capers is incompetent, then so is McCarthy.
        It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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        • #5
          Well something got to change, these playoff re-runs are getting old. MM and TT aren't going anywhere. Dom is a fine coach but it is time to move on.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by King Friday View Post
            When you have to rely on an undrafted kid like Gunter to cover Julio Jones...who is arguably the most physically talented receiver in the entire league...it doesn't matter who your DC is.

            Your argument that Capers should be put to pasture may have merit, but that is hardly the reason we lost this game. We had the talent on the offensive side of the ball to be able to do better than a huge goose egg on the board at halftime. If Capers is incompetent, then so is McCarthy.
            Good points all. And just a couple of weeks ago we were singing Capers's praise when he managed to shut down NY. With all of the injuries to the defense, Capers has been doing it with smoke and mirrors. Bottom line is, Packers ran into a team that couldn't miss today. Nobody would have beaten Atlanta today, not the Packers, not New England, not the 85 Bears.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by King Friday View Post
              When you have to rely on an undrafted kid like Gunter to cover Julio Jones...who is arguably the most physically talented receiver in the entire league...it doesn't matter who your DC is.

              Your argument that Capers should be put to pasture may have merit, but that is hardly the reason we lost this game. We had the talent on the offensive side of the ball to be able to do better than a huge goose egg on the board at halftime. If Capers is incompetent, then so is McCarthy.
              This would have been a blowout even with a healthy defense. They lack talent, both players and coaches.

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              • #8
                Somethings got to change for sure. I don't really even know if it's Capers fault or not. This D has ranged from Suspect to Dreadful for many years now. They were suspect the year they went to the super bowl, but turned out to be good enough to get by. Other than that it's just varying degrees of crappiness. I fear they will let AR rot just like they did Favre unless someone wakes up and decides to alter things. I don't think they need to completely scrap everything. I think developing young players is good for longevity. However, they need to do a lot better at using FAs to fill in the other areas. It can be done. The Patsies do it every year. Plugging in players who are will to go there to try to win a Super Bowl. We've gotta do a little more of that I think in order to firm this D up.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                  This would have been a blowout even with a healthy defense. They lack talent, both players and coaches.
                  We still managed to win 8 games in a row to get to this point. I hate to think what your insight would be for the rest of the NFL. Glad you are around to edu-ma-cate us.
                  It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Netmag View Post
                    However, they need to do a lot better at using FAs to fill in the other areas. It can be done. The Patsies do it every year. Plugging in players who are will to go there to try to win a Super Bowl. We've gotta do a little more of that I think in order to firm this D up.
                    Yep. Ted simply has to recognize that "draft and develop only" is not going to cut it. Defensively, this team has had gaping holes at LB and CB for some time. I don't want to get all racial and stuff...but Ted needs to stop drafting white LBs.
                    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                      Yep. Ted simply has to recognize that "draft and develop only" is not going to cut it. Defensively, this team has had gaping holes at LB and CB for some time. I don't want to get all racial and stuff...but Ted needs to stop drafting white LBs.
                      DITTO; while I continue to believe Capers has done a decent job, I am fine with the logistics it's time to move on as well. No DC could have done anything with all of the talent mismatches we had on the field today though.

                      We need a lot more talent on defense
                      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                        Yep. Ted simply has to recognize that "draft and develop only" is not going to cut it. Defensively, this team has had gaping holes at LB and CB for some time. I don't want to get all racial and stuff...but Ted needs to stop drafting white LBs.
                        You criticize me in one post, and repeat basically what I have been saying for years in the very next. That makes sense.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                          You criticize me in one post, and repeat basically what I have been saying for years in the very next. That makes sense.
                          You make it sound like the Packers are the Cleveland Browns. The team won 8 games in a row...apparently without ANY TALENT. That is what makes no sense.

                          Sure, there are things that need to be fixed...but your approach of "blow everything up" isn't a solution worth considering. We aren't the Cleveland Browns.
                          It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                            You make it sound like the Packers are the Cleveland Browns. The team won 8 games in a row...apparently without ANY TALENT. That is what makes no sense.

                            Sure, there are things that need to be fixed...but your approach of "blow everything up" isn't a solution worth considering. We aren't the Cleveland Browns.
                            I have NEVER said blow everything up. I have ALWAYS said that every avenue should be used to get talent, that includes FA and trades. I do believe it's time for Capers to be replaced. If that's blowing everything up, so be it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                              When you have to rely on an undrafted kid like Gunter to cover Julio Jones...who is arguably the most physically talented receiver in the entire league...it doesn't matter who your DC is.

                              Your argument that Capers should be put to pasture may have merit, but that is hardly the reason we lost this game. We had the talent on the offensive side of the ball to be able to do better than a huge goose egg on the board at halftime. If Capers is incompetent, then so is McCarthy.
                              Good post. I can't believe that I used to think of you as a moron.

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