The Elephant In The Room

[Freak Out]

I'd rather try a new DC before we go for a new GM right now.

I think M3 needs to go as well.

[pbmax]

Now you're just trolling me. 34 carries 4.4 ypc 2 TD's and no mention of fumbling. Now he coughs one up and it's McCarthy's fault for giving him the ball in that situation because his ball security has been a problem the whole time? Someone else says, "How could Stubby give the ball to a lineman in that situation."

That hindsight-driven "analysis" seems reasonable to you?

I am not saying he is a terrible RB vince. But I have noticed before that he carries the ball one handed and away from his body a lot when he is in mixed traffic. I don't have any videos of this to post, I am just saying that I have observed this. Several times I remember being worried about a fumble that seemed like it was about to occur.

He does understand ball security, because he doesn't do this in short yardage or when he makes direct frontal contact. Then, like the very end of his run Sunday, he gets the second arm in there.

But for a non speedy full back who wants to carry defenders for a yard or two, that has to happen quicker. Because the second guy in will go for the ball like the Falcon did.

[LEWCWA]

But no matter how good your O is they aren't gonna play lights out every week and this is why you need half way decent defense to compensate when your offense has an off day. Considering the state of this team right now unless Rodgers plays lights out we lose and lose big.

I don't know, they score 10 on the first 2 drives instead of 0 and get either the fumbled snap or the int. in the endzone and this is a totally different game....We know the D isn't spectacular, we know the nfl by rule favors offense, we have a great offense. The offense dropped the ball by not scoring and keeping this team in the game.....They didn't have to be other worldly, they were at the door both drives....they failed.....offense can protect a def. ours didn't sunday. I like our chances of getting a stop or 2 better if the game isn't completely out of hand.....

[yetisnowman]

I guess we are just disagreeing about the amount of imagination flex the words "could win" allow.

Even if the Packers played Seahawks level defense (road variety), which they had not since Week 4, the offense would have needed five TDs or seven scoring drives if you kick FGs. Not sure the injured offense was going to do that yesterday.

A much more depleted offense scored 32 and had a chance to score more with the game in its waning moments. It should have been 10-10 and us kicking off. Much different than down 10-0 with them having the ball after a TO. Atlanta was not unbeatable on Sunday we just made then look that way.

[pbmax]

A much more depleted offense scored 32 and had a chance to score more with the game in its waning moments. It should have been 10-10 and us kicking off. Much different than down 10-0 with them having the ball after a TO. Atlanta was not unbeatable on Sunday we just made then look that way.

I can see that in the second half to a degree, but Atlanta changed their approach. They started to stall.

I don't think Atlanta is at all 23 points better than the Packers. But like the Carolina game last year, the Packers weren't going to come out on top of this one even if you grant them 10 points in the first half.