Hypothetical DC Change

[texaspackerbacker]

Exactly. Which is why they need to dump the complex stuff and play something they all can play from rote memory. Even if it can't shut down an elite defense, it might slow them down.

Wilde put out feelers for questions for today's PC and the best he said he got was "You have said you need a championship defense, what is preventing that?"

I sent he should follow up with this suggestion: "You have said the Defense needs to put its best players into a position to excel with subgroups, packages, etc. Does that blow up in your face when you get injuries, since the backups don't have the same strengths?"

no no no! If you get rid of the complex stuff with the personnel Ted has provided for us, we'll probably give up 40+ points just about every game and not even make the playoffs.

Why have we given up those 40+ games in the playoffs? Playing good teams has something to do with it. Opponents being smart enough to adjust to our scheming late in the season is also a cause. Our mediocre personnel on D is the primary cause, though.

[MadtownPacker]

Shit I must have not set the expiration right on Partials ban. Don't expect any responses from him until the summer.

Of course he will make another account and then the ban will double if not triple.

Lesson for the kids, don't bring up personal shit.

[Rutnstrut]

Why wouldn't they. Made the NFCC game with their best CB lost, best defensive player injured, 2nd CB injured, 3rd CB out. Not a bad showing overall.

So you are saying they should keep doing the same exact things and HOPE they get lucky some year as far as injuries? So what happens when Dom's D fails hard with a healthy team? Oh wait that has happened before and yet Dom is still there. I do agree that with all the right players, Dom could do well. But most D coordinators could in that situation. But that will never happen either as TT will not do what it takes to give Dom all the tools he needs.

[RashanGary]

So you are saying they should keep doing the same exact things and HOPE they get lucky some year as far as injuries? So what happens when Dom's D fails hard with a healthy team? Oh wait that has happened before and yet Dom is still there. I do agree that with all the right players, Dom could do well. But most D coordinators could in that situation. But that will never happen either as TT will not do what it takes to give Dom all the tools he needs.

New England went 10 years without a SB but were always close, then won it. So, um, yes please. Some more of the same please.

[Freak Out]

Shit I must have not set the expiration right on Partials ban. Don't expect any responses from him until the summer.

Of course he will make another account and then the ban will double if not triple.

Lesson for the kids, don't bring up personal shit.

Damn....what did I miss?

[KYPack]

Shit I must have not set the expiration right on Partials ban. Don't expect any responses from him until the summer.

Of course he will make another account and then the ban will double if not triple.

Lesson for the kids, don't bring up personal shit.

Mas info,

What the hell did I miss?

Always ID which one is Partial so we can razz him and rib him and shit.

[ThunderDan]

Here we sit 4 days later and nothing but silence from the Packer brass. Do they really feel no coaching changes are in order?

GB is one of the most thorough in self-evaluation. I am not sure how you do year-end player reviews and coach reviews in 4 days.

If changes come it will be next week at the earliest.

[pbmax]

no no no! If you get rid of the complex stuff with the personnel Ted has provided for us, we'll probably give up 40+ points just about every game and not even make the playoffs.

Why have we given up those 40+ games in the playoffs? Playing good teams has something to do with it. Opponents being smart enough to adjust to our scheming late in the season is also a cause. Our mediocre personnel on D is the primary cause, though.

I would agree with you if I had thought Dom had fooled anyone in the last 2 years. Just doesn't happen much anymore, doesn't happen at all when he has youngsters in there.

He needs to simplify, play those basic D's better and then add it complexity as the season goes on and he knows who it healthy. Also need to be able to zone and man to man at any point.

[texaspackerbacker]

Shit I must have not set the expiration right on Partials ban. Don't expect any responses from him until the summer.

Of course he will make another account and then the ban will double if not triple.

Lesson for the kids, don't bring up personal shit.

Aw, give him a break. He may be wrong all the time, and he may insult some people - me included, but he makes FYI more interesting.

You guys that missed it must not be following FYI hahahaha.

[texaspackerbacker]

I would agree with you if I had thought Dom had fooled anyone in the last 2 years. Just doesn't happen much anymore, doesn't happen at all when he has youngsters in there.

He needs to simplify, play those basic D's better and then add it complexity as the season goes on and he knows who it healthy. Also need to be able to zone and man to man at any point.

How exactly are you gonna simplify things without giving up the blitz packages, etc. that we do to compensate for inadequate personnel? I'd agree with you if we could do that. If we just lined up and tried to stop 'em, it wouldn't be pretty. I don't think the occasional problems we have had, especially in the playoffs are due to Packer players getting confused by the complexity. It's just that when you play the compensation game - as we need to, you open up something else to your opponent and just hope they can't outguess you.

Blame Ted, not Dom.

[Cheesehead Craig]

How exactly are you gonna simplify things without giving up the blitz packages, etc. that we do to compensate for inadequate personnel? I'd agree with you if we could do that. If we just lined up and tried to stop 'em, it wouldn't be pretty. I don't think the occasional problems we have had, especially in the playoffs are due to Packer players getting confused by the complexity. It's just that when you play the compensation game - as we need to, you open up something else to your opponent and just hope they can't outguess you.

Blame Ted, not Dom.

The problem is that his complex scheme doesn't work with the personnel. There's seemingly a DB or LB completely clueless on every play as to what their responsibility is. It's a coaches job to make things work for the personnel, not the other way around, especially when they haven't demonstrated that they grasp what's being called. You hear all the time about how defenses get turned around by the coaches and players saying that things were simplified and that gave them more confidence as to what is going on. Allows them to play vs think.

Seeing that the players couldn't do some of his plans should have clued him in to stop calling those and come up with something better suited for what he was dealt. That's just poor coaching on his part.

[gbgary]

How exactly are you gonna simplify things without giving up the blitz packages, etc. that we do to compensate for inadequate personnel? I'd agree with you if we could do that. If we just lined up and tried to stop 'em, it wouldn't be pretty. I don't think the occasional problems we have had, especially in the playoffs are due to Packer players getting confused by the complexity. It's just that when you play the compensation game - as we need to, you open up something else to your opponent and just hope they can't outguess you.

Blame Ted, not Dom.

yup (to a point). poor secondary is bad, poor pass rush is bad, but suffering from both is terminal unless your o can score every possession. we got away with it for a while...then the o blinked.

[Deputy Nutz]

Who cares at this point if they keep him or fire him. The personnel on that side of the ball is as thin as the hair on top of SkinBasket's head.

[woodbuck27]

Wow, I would put Lombardi's record at GB against any coach ever in the history of the NFL.

We are talking about now ThunderDan and how do we ever get back to another Super Bowl appearance. It is a different time the Modern-Now Era ThunderDan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Belichick

Bill Belechick Career highlights and awards

6× Super Bowl champion (XXI, XXV, XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLIX) Note: He did that not might have done that. He will add another next Sunday.

3× AP NFL Coach of the Year (2003, 2007, 2010)

NFL 2000s All-Decade Team

Bill Belichick - Head coaching record

Regular season: 237–115 (.673); Postseason:24–10 (.706)

Career: 261–125 (.676)

Yes Vince Lombardi has very impressive stats.** We are well aware of that fact as Packer fans; but again that was in another time and with a decade of many HOF players to coach.

** Career highlights and awards

2× NFL Coach of the Year (1959, 1961)

2× Super Bowl champion (I, II); 6× NFL champion (1956, 1961, 1962, 1965–1967)

Career NFL statistics

Win–loss record: 96–34–6; Winning percentage:.719

Playoff record: 9–1; Overall record: 105–35–6 (Awesome)

By the way I have been reading the comments of other Packer fans and a general opinion right now is that the Green Bay Packers wil not win another Super Bowl with Dom Capers as the teams DC and unless Ted Thompson changes his conservative money thrift ways and his all in on a Draft and Develop approach this off season you can expect another season of no Super Bowl futility in 2017.

This morning I watched the video of Mike McCarthy putting his spin act on again and ''we were so close again...just one more win away and meeting our goal every season of winning the Super Bowl.'' With less adversity next season (2017) and less injuries (it sure looks like Sam Shields is finished ... Will Eddie Lacy make it turn around?). That MM spin is worn out.

Just one more win away? Will MM ever get to what is reality?

The Atlanta Falcons blew the Green Bay Packers away and pulled their foot off the offensive throttle in the Fourth Quarter or the score would have been embarassing.

The Green Bay Packers will NOT ever win another Super Bowl as it has been and TT and MM and Dom Capers.

[ThunderDan]

I'll take Vrabel; he's a winner

If he's 1/20th as smart as Hoodie Genius he'll be the best coach we've ever had

Actually Woody, if you read Bretsky's post and not just scanned it you wouldn't have posted the above. It specifically says best coach ever. Not today, ever!

Yes, I believe that Belichick is a best coach in the NFL right now. That is not what Bretsky posted.