Official Vince Biegel 2017 Fourth Round Choice

[beveaux1]

I'll repeat what I said before. If TJ Watt had the last name of Biegel, he and Vince would have been drafted within a round of each other. The difference being the ages of the two players.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Watt is bigger than Biegel in every way (longer arms, bigger hands.) He has more potential to fill out and be defensive line stud. But he only really played 1 year of college football, which is a loss to all.

[Fritz]

"NFL COMPARISON Frank Zombo"

That let the air right out of my sails on this guy.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I think Watt would be in college next year if he had a different last name.

I've heard some people who study the games and go to some practices (Tarek Saleh, Mike Lucas, others) say that Biegel was by far the best player on the Badger D. And they were saying that for two years. I didn't really see it with my own eyes, he was just a solid player to me.

Vince has always recieved a lot of praise from those that cover the Badgers that he is the biggest key for the defense. That was high praise given that the Badger LBs were the cornerstone of that unit and amongst the best in college.

[Joemailman]

"NFL COMPARISON Frank Zombo"

That let the air right out of my sails on this guy.

I liked Zombo, until he got hit by the injury bug. Biegel is probably better than Zombo, but don't be expecting another Clay Matthews with a 4th round pick.

[pbmax]

"NFL COMPARISON Frank Zombo"

That let the air right out of my sails on this guy.

Lance Zierlein is everyone on football blogs. I am not sure how good of a scout he is, but I do know this:

Zombo was a UDFA, At a minimum, Biegel makes a better prospect.

[Patler]

I don't think he is comparing Biegel the prospect to Zombo the prospect, he is comparing Biegel the prospect to Zombo the 8th year veteran who started 11 games last year. I don't think it matters that Zombo was undrafted.

[Fritz]

Then the comparison makes me even sadder.

[Brandon494]

Pretty much saying he doesn't have much upside but he's assignment sure.

[Brandon494]

I didn't like the pick but I understand it, after losing Peppers we need depth at OLB because the chances of Clay and Peppers not missing a game are slim to none.

[pbmax]

Perry, not Peppers

[Brandon494]

Smh don't know why I keep doing that haha

[wist43]

It can never be justified to over draft a guy just to fill a need. I want to fill needs, but would argue we either trade up to get the requisite value, or stay put and take a player at another position who is worthy of that pick.

Biegel may play a position of need, but I don't think he fills it - just as I don't think Fackrell fills it. That's 2 mid-round spitballs that Ted has thrown at a critical position, combined with the mid-round spitballs that are Ryan and Martinez. Everyone of those guys is athletically limited, and hence have low ceilings.

In short, TT is not filling holes in the starting lineup, he's playing his same old quantity game in hopes of hitting on one of them.

[wist43]

I cant post the video of Beigel in the LSU game as I'm on my phone, but go on YouTube and watch the tape... he doesn't make a single play of his own inertia. The couple of plays he does make are b/c he's unblocked.

He gets handled easily by the TE, he can't get off blocks, he lacks chase speed, on and on... watch the tape.

[Pugger]

"NFL COMPARISON Frank Zombo"

That let the air right out of my sails on this guy.

I think Vince is a better athlete than Frank.