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Originally posted by Radagast
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i didn't give them a grade.
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lol...well hell no. off the top of my head i can't even name half the guys that were acutally drafted. what does my memory have to do with media grading drafts? lol
i didn't give them a grade.
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King obviously has star potential. The S/LB too. I think the RB Williams and Adams both have high end starter potential. Montravius is a wild card. Big guy. Never know. Biegel looks like the type to contribute. The OL guy is a high upside project. Both receivers and the last back could be alright too......
We have a chance to have one of those really impactful drafts. Would love to get a star and 3 or 4 starters. I really hope so!!! We need a SB soon or our Rodgers window will start to close.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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Except turn one pick into both King and Biegel. That's why Thompson gets an A and you get a block.Originally posted by gbgary View PostIt's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!Comment
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What radagast said above makes the most sense. It's all speculation at this point. Check again in 3 or 5 or 10 years.
Just the same, this draft SEEMS at first glance to be Ted's best in my memory. And I do NOT just mean that in terms of filling needs; I mean it in terms of at least perceived quality.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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The following players visited the GB Packers prior to the draft and were then drafted by the Packers.
They are :
DeAngelo Yancey / WR / Purdue
Kofi Amichia / OL / South Florida
Devante Mays / RB / Utah State
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If your not the lead dog , then the view never changes !Comment
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Well, we of course don't know jack about how who will pan out and who won't, not for any of these teams. But da Bears sure did give up the farm to move up - I love this - one spot! After giving a young guy a big contract to play the same position.
Minnesota looks like they may be back to their bad old ways - drafting Cook in the second round. Lions, too, drafting Teez Tabor in the second, then a bunch of third wide receivers and special teamers, it appears.
But who knows. The fun is in finding out."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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In a way I think it makes more sense to rank a draft now for purposes of GM accountability. Or in a few months maybe. For purposes of coach accountability 4 years should do.
I think its a bad assumption that some players are destined for greatness independent of the circumstances of the team that drafts them. In an alternate reality Rodgers may have been a 49er and never developed into the MVP-level talent he is now. There are probably players that never hit with the Packers who could have been pro bowlers elsewhere. And I'm not just talking about schematic fit but the whole infinite collection of variances that are set in motion once drafted by a team in the NFL. So I see the temptation of thinking "what if we took Ngata over Hawk?" but there is no guarantee that Ngata the prospect would have been Ngata the star without Ray Lewis barking orders behind him. It could well have taken his coaches, trainers, friendships, teammates, family, fans, and a million other things in that exact situation to make him. Maybe he comes to GB and our trainers destroy his back in the weight room and he becomes nothing but a curse word Bretsky uses in traffic.
For this reason the Brian Brohms and Khyri Thorntons are the worst draft picks to hang on Ted. They were piles of shit so immediately that its hard to imagine what it would take to cultivate whatever talent they had.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.Comment
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Thornton is actually still in the league - playing for the Lions, I believe. Those big bodies tend to get more chances though.Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
Brohm...that was a bad one. I always though TT might've been at odds with a previously very highly rated player (and a QB!) being on the board 2/3 of the way through the second and panicked a little.--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...Comment
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The same people calling the draft grades worthless would be frothing at the mouth if the Packers had received poor draft grades for this year. Too many armchair GM's.Comment
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Killer post 31. Though I think it's fair to hold the GM responsible for drafting/adding players that can/will thrive within the circumstances of the team as constructed.Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
As you say it's more complex than simply assessing talent in a vacuum. I think your post says a lot about Ted's approach to player acquisition beyond the draft as well.Comment
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of course it is. these guys/publications are doing it just for fun (and it's their job). that's what it is. just like these chat boards. talking points and fun.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostComment
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Totally excluding picks that had their careers derailed by injury early on, it amazes me when the team drafts a guy in the first three or four rounds and they come in and look like they can't play. Likewise, we all love it when a player is found where least expected. I wasn't crazy about picking DeAngelo Yancey where he was chosen, however, if he catches on and turns out to be a decent pro, then my concerns were unfounded."Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick MoynihanComment
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I must be in the minority because I don't care when a guy is taken. If he ends up that he can play and really contribute isn't that all that matters in the end?Comment
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you can always grade drafts on how well they addressed their needs
in that case, i think we would get about a B, we still might have the Ilb or OLB depth problem, depending on where beigel plays. and we still have barclay as our #1 backup at guardComment
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