Pete Prisco's Team Grades for 2017 Draft

[Zool]

Why do you have such an anti-Packer bias that you feel the need to troll so hard Rad?

It makes people feel smart and superior to point out the failings (actual or perceived) of others.

[pbmax]

Unfortunately, this theme of Thompson evolving has become a thing. Here is Mike Freeman doing a survey of the greatest, recent, hits.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2706871-at-long-last-the-packers-seem-to-understand-that-its-evolve-or-die-in-the-nfl

Just a couple things beyond what vince and gary wrote.

1. Its became clear that the solution to the Packer Offensive woes was a monster TE. It never before seemed that important, but against that man under cover 2, they needed him. Cook was a FA signing in 2016, which already runs counter to the narrative that Freeman and Spoon are pushing. Had his agent not tried to weasel a better deal at the last moment, he would have been resigned in a VERY Ted like move.

While Cook's agent was screwing around, Bennett came available and wanted to play for a winning team and I don't think his contract demand was at the far reaches of comprehension given his 2016 year. Pretty reasonable, slightly above Cook, for a more well rounded guy. Since he was replacing a FA signing himself, very Ted move for this position of sudden need. By sudden, I mean, prior to Cook, I would have gone to the mattresses arguing that TE was not that integral to McCarthy's offense. I was obviously wrong. Ted knew he needed a talent there and signed one like he did the year before.

Cook was the test case that TE was as vitally important as a top flight WR, as I bet M3 had been pointing out for some time.

2. DBs. The Defense had to be redone, obviously. Shields wasn't coming back and even if you agree with me that each of the young corners could become a #1 (Randall, Rollins, Gunter), the 2016 year made it clear that was no lock and even if one stepped forward, depth was a problem. Its not the first time Ted has remade a position in a short time period (QB, CB, ILB, TE, RB).

So he was going to collect DBs this offseason. House was a unique example of a prepared player available and ready for a bargain. Like resigning Jones after Jordy was hurt.

3. I do think Ted made one concession to his roster needing some retooling. Mid-range FAs. I suspect it was possible because he lost both offensive lineman in FA (Tretter and Lang) and did not expect to. He signed not only House at modest rates, but also Kendricks and Evans. Evans was need based, but I bet Kendricks was a coaching request. To have enough starter quality TEs (two plus backup) to reliably trot out 12 personnel (1 RB, 2 TE, 2 WR) all season long to entice teams out of nickel. Or punish them if they stay in it.

But #3 is a long way from revolutionizing Ted's approach. He had a boatload of money (more than the normal boatload) and went shopping. If he returned to non-FA form after a successful 2017-18 season, I would not be surprised.

[Radagast]

In spite of TT, GB may have chosen well in the 2017 Draft. That remains to be seen down the road . I hope that the 2017 Packers will be SB Champions this season, but GB is not NE and I've learned not to get my hopes up too much with the current GM. The bad thing is that we will have wait to see how the next GM in GB preforms following 3 to 4 seasons . I'd be agreeable to giving Elliot Wolf a shot at the job.

[ThunderDan]

In spite of TT, GB may have chosen well in the 2017 Draft.

This makes absolutely no sense. TT is in charge of the draft and makes the picks.

It would be similar to say if it wasn't for Augusta Nation Golf Club the Masters would suck.

[call_me_ishmael]

LOL, Radagast doing the best he can to not admit that maybe he is wrong. LOL!

[Joemailman]

In spite of Aaron Rodgers, Packers led the NFL in TD passes last year. I'd be agreeable to giving Brett Hundley a shot at the job.

[hoosier]

GB is not NE and I've learned not to get my hopes up too much with the current GM.

Because, aside from the one exceptional team you just named, there are so many other GMs in the league with a better record of success than TT's, right?

[Smidgeon]

Those who were paying attention saw this offseason as shaping up very differently for Thompson. Ted managed it better than most by doing some of the heavy lifting last year getting rid of Sitton a year earlier than expected. Still there were a number of important pieces coming due who were at different turning points in their careers as Packers to varying degrees and for various reasons - Lacy, Lang, Peppers, Tretter, Shields, Cook, Perry, Hyde, Starks, Jones, etc. That's a ton of production to lose and/or have to pay up for all in one year.

Big changes were almost inevitable and I believe Ted stayed true to his way this year rather than "evolving."

Extra picks help Ted Thompson retool Packers roster




This idea that Thompson has somehow "evolved" and risen from the depths of yesterday's game are a gross oversimplification and a misunderstanding of what's happened this year. While he necessarily signed more FA's this offseason, those moves were necessitated by the state of the roster not by some new approach. He was still characteristically judicious about not overspending or over-reaching.

Ted Thompson has always assessed the state of the roster and acted in ways he feels appropriate for maintaining balance between short-term needs and long-term health of the roster. That balance is different this year, which has driven the moves he's made but his strategic approach to building a team to win now and in the future remains the same as it's always been.

Where is that second quote from?

[pbmax]

Where is that second quote from?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2706871-at-long-last-the-packers-seem-to-understand-that-its-evolve-or-die-in-the-nfl

I had a post about it somewhere in here I think, and Patler talked more at length about it in his thread.

Freeman is taking a few gibes WAY too seriously and overlooking the FAs Ted has actually signed.

[Fritz]

I get so pissed off when people who are paid to write for a living - like the idiot who wrote the Bleacherreport article - don't seem to understand language. Here's the opening paragraph of that article:

"Across the NFL, many of the front-office executives who help shape their teams' drafts have always viewed Ted Thompson as almost a God-like figure. He is, by some, literally worshipped."

Does this guy have any idea what the word "literally" means? Or are there really a bunch of front office executives who get on their knees to worship little Ted Thompson statues they have set up on an altar in the corners of their offices?

[pbmax]

I get so pissed off when people who are paid to write for a living - like the idiot who wrote the Bleacherreport article - don't seem to understand language. Here's the opening paragraph of that article:

"Across the NFL, many of the front-office executives who help shape their teams' drafts have always viewed Ted Thompson as almost a God-like figure. He is, by some, literally worshipped."

Does this guy have any idea what the word "literally" means? Or are there really a bunch of front office executives who get on their knees to worship little Ted Thompson statues they have set up on an altar in the corners of their offices?

C'mon Fritz, definition 4 of Merriam Webster!

extravagant respect or admiration for or devotion to an object of esteem - 'worship of the dollar'

[Fritz]

C'mon Fritz, definition 4 of Merriam Webster!

That's the definition of "literal"??

[Sparkey]

I get so pissed off when people who are paid to write for a living - like the idiot who wrote the Bleacherreport article - don't seem to understand language. Here's the opening paragraph of that article:

"Across the NFL, many of the front-office executives who help shape their teams' drafts have always viewed Ted Thompson as almost a God-like figure. He is, by some, literally worshipped."

Does this guy have any idea what the word "literally" means? Or are there really a bunch of front office executives who get on their knees to worship little Ted Thompson statues they have set up on an altar in the corners of their offices?

It's only literal in a figurative sense.

[Fritz]

It's only literal in a figurative sense.

So it's metaphorically literal?

Good call!

I literally, in a metaphoric way, am laughing my ass off right now.

[hoosier]

That's the definition of "literal"??

It's a millennial thing, don't you know? Max's D4 is close but the millennial usage means something closer to bigly. For instance: "I was sitting there trying to write my final paper, and I could not think of anything to say. Then, suddenly, a light bulb literally went off in my head."