Ahman Ah-rested

[hoosier]

I understand your point, but I don't think the lesson can ever be completely clear when physical harm or the threat of harm is involved. Let's assume you're right, and the child learns that when she doesn't listen to Dad then bad things happen. How does that lesson translate into the rest of her life? Does she internalize responsibility for taking care of where she lives? Does she learn to obey the voice of authority simply because it is the authority? Does she simply internalize that she should do what Dad says because he says? I spent some time in a school system in another country where corporal punishment was quite common and often very brutal. I would say that overall the children there were slightly better behaved than their American peers (only slightly) and that they were considerably less adept at thinking for themselves. Their idea of learning was listening to what the teacher told them and memorizing it. That idea stays with many of them throughout their entire education. The change in parenting and discipline culture is new, I agree, and it's easy to assume that if things were done a certain way for a very long time then the results must not be all that bad. Maybe for the average kid they are not, because most kids have supportive, loving families or are simply a lot more resilient than we often give them credit for being.

[pbmax]

The kind of negative reaction you impart is very important.

To expect physical assault is simply to fear the abuse again. Its a pretty bad feedback loop to reinforce.

There are a lot of negative outcomes that do not involve a violent act. Refusing to do the dishes or mouthing off can limit your access to that allowance, the car, time away from the home, internet, phone, other favors, trips to see family, etc.

[Joemailman]

The number of responses to this thread has reminded me of one thing:

There is way too much time between minicamp and training camp.

[mraynrand]

How is saying "don't beat your kid, there are other ways" a flawed argument??

That's not what you wrote, Hotspur. Read what you wrote again, and think about how you will keep your kid from running into traffic or taking things from other kids.

[pbmax]

The number of responses to this thread has reminded me of one thing:

There is way too much time between minicamp and training camp.

A: Spring Football League. Now.

[MadtownPacker]

How is saying "don't beat your kid, there are other ways" a flawed argument??

Ultimate test, did you get beat as a child?

[MadtownPacker]

Must have clicked on the wrong shit. Threads wasn't suppose to be locked. Thanks for pointing it out 31.

[Vincenzo]

The number of responses to this thread has reminded me of one thing:

There is way too much time between minicamp and training camp.

Boy, ain't that the truth!

[Rutnstrut]

The world is becoming pussified. Perhaps Green crossed a line. But the line is getting pushed back to not being able to discipline your kids at all. All that does is create entitled assholes aka liberals.

[falco]

Ultimate test, did you get beat as a child?

Because if it made sense 30 years ago, it must make sense now!

[call_me_ishmael]

Of course I wasn't beaten as a child. My parents were educated. Beating someone up loses you respect in the end. When your kids don't respect you, what influence do you have over them?

[MadtownPacker]

Of course I wasn't beaten as a child. My parents were educated. Beating someone up loses you respect in the end. When your kids don't respect you, what influence do you have over them?

You are such a sorry piece of shit. So any parent who did is uneducated?

If you are the result of not getting spanked ever then the results more than speak for themselves.

[gbgary]

i got spanked with a paddle at home a few times and at school too in later years. never did me any harm physically or mentally. didn't hurt my relationship with my parents. i've no problem with corporal punishment. as for ahman...not sure how accurate the stories coming out are but later in the process it will become more clear.

Ahman Ah-rested

clever.

[ThunderDan]

But the line is getting pushed back to not being able to discipline your kids at all. All that does is create entitled assholes aka liberals.

When did anyone here say you shouldn't be able to discipline your child? If your only method of disciplining your child is to hit them you are a piece of shit as a parent.

[Rutnstrut]

When did anyone here say you shouldn't be able to discipline your child? If your only method of disciplining your child is to hit them you are a piece of shit as a parent.

People bitch now if you talk sternly to your children. People whine if you ground them. If by hitting them, you mean give them a swat on the ass when they have it coming. Yes I hit them. I also have absolutely no problem putting a boot up either of my teenagers ass if they do something stupid.