Is McCarthy the problem?

[pbmax]

The answer to the OP question is: partially.

Even if you assume the worst about Ted's draft picks, the coaches haven't gotten much pass rush out of a good number of high draft picks. Probably mostly misfit of scheme and then some questions about effective assistant coaching.

Matthews was a hit, Raji was for one year and Perry had to get over his injuries then reclaim the starter job from Peppers. Otherwise it took 'til Clark to give them some movement up front. I do think Ted has struggled to find that athletic lean guy (Fackrell, Thompson) in the mid rounds for pass rush and he has never found the squat guy to do it (Miller, Harrison) in the later rounds. But I really thought either Elliot or Fackrell would fill this spot.

The Packers had oodles of DB talent for years and still struggled too often to rush the passer. When the talent got old, replacing it took a while and was compounded by a lot of communication errors. The design took too long to adjust, and that is on Capers and M3.

McCarthy and his assistants, with one exception, has done much better with misfit parts in assembling an offense. They took too long to find an offense and rhythm for Hundley. And God knows what they were thinking with Harrell and Coleman.

As usual, the question is whether they have learned anything from this. Ted seems bent more than ever (probably from his dabbling in analytics) on athleticism, especially after Atlanta torched them in the playoffs. The question is now whether the Asst. Coaches can get them up to speed and install a scheme they can play well.

My concerns about assistants are, in order, OLB coach (Green developed Matthews and the pfft, Moss has an assistant who is a cypher to me), Trgovac (what happened to Raji and Jones?) and Perry (huge struggle to find a safety next to Burnett and now Dix is having a poor season where he struggles to call the defense).

Luke Getsy as WR coach has not really distinguished himself. The RB coach should get a raise this year. The TE coach should be fired on general principle and Campen should get a bust in the Packer HoF for his work the last 5 years.

[texaspackerbacker]

If Crosby tells you he can make it, you do not believe him? What do you put his odds at?

I think he had the wind, and the Steelers guy - no better than Crosby - kicked it 53 yards in that direction to win the game. I can't fault him too much for letting him kick it.

[woodbuck27]

This is bs and we all know it. Smuggler or someone did an analysis of end of games and MM won more than anyone in the NFL but Billacheat.

Look at the ARI/GB playoff game to see an attacking end of the game strategy backfire.

[COLOR="#008080"]MM is off the wall erratic in his style of play calling. He's either way too conservative or wildly too stupid optimistic. WE certainly saw that Vs Pittsburgh and a dumb ass call for a FG that had to be missed in all probability for little gain. Punt the ball and hold and get into the Dressing Room to Re-Group. No..not lame brained Mike McCarthy.

ThunderDan you one of the few Million Packer fans in Packer Nation that actually believed in Mike McCarthy's call there. That is just who you are. That is why I would easily out play you like I do by far most people and playing Poker.

To be smart you need to have the smarts. That's NOT Mike McCarthy.

Sorry but that's too easy for me to see since he became the Packer HC. He feeds off Aaron Rodgers .He fed off Brett Favre. He's postering through Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers as an exceptional Head Coach.

Frankly he doesn't act at all that intelligent given a Man of his vast experience and NFL Coaching. I feel sad to observe and have to admit that to myself. I want the Green Bay Packers in another Super Bowl game.

He's a Blue Collar Guy trying to do 'a Big Brain White Collar heavy on the Leadership and all in honest with himself' job. Frankly I don't believe at all in him because too often he gives me little in the long of it I can trust to believe.

Put otherwise; I measure a Man by his integrity and Mike McCarthy is lacking in that area. That's just what I see.

Too much same Ole Same OLe BULLSHIT = Mike McCarthy.

The deal is 'and REALITY', that Mike McCarthy lasts as long as Ted Thompson decides to grind out .......................his act.

I want to see Aaron Rodgers just win another Super Bowl, even if I have to cheer for him and on another NFL Team. It's not ever going to happen in Green Bay. Not with TT and MM trying to do whatever, and their constant now FAIL.

Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy and Dom Capers are failing constantly and Super Bowl.

They will continue to fail as they must and are. Count on this...I am right.

I sure don't desire to be right and this one. Sadly..... I simply am.

GO PACK GO !

[Smidgeon]

I'd guess somewhere around 30% for Crosby. I'd be willing to bet that if they it were possible to know the exact chances and someone told M3 that there was a 1 in 3 chance, he'd still take it. He took a risk on one of his better players making a play and it didn't work out.

At any rate, I doubt punting was ever considered. If they had Rodgers, they would have gone for the 1st down. Hundley was like 6/7 on third down in that game, so maybe they should have gone after it.

We never got a replay of the snap and hold, did we? I thought that was an egregious oversight for such an important play.

[ThunderDan]

ThunderDan you one of the few Million Packer fans in Packer Nation that actually believed in Mike McCarthy's call there. That is just who you are. That is why I would easily out play you like I do by far most people and playing Poker.

Just to set you straight, because your reading comprehension doesn't seem to be that good, I was against MM kicking the FG on Sunday night.

Here is what I posted on the game day thread:

Two sacks takes us out of fog range.

Got to love autocorrect that turns FG into fog.

I posted something similar to Rut in another thread.

[Pugger]

If the concensus here is to replace the whole staff, who should we bring in as GM and HC? Its easy to say "Fire So 'n So" but if we do the people we bring in better produce seeing before Rodgers isn't getting any younger.

[pbmax]

We never got a replay of the snap and hold, did we? I thought that was an egregious oversight for such an important play.

Snap looked high and inside to me, but Vogel seemed ready for it. Like maybe he wants the ball into his chest.

He got the ball down about where his hand was pre snap. Hard to be sure without closer look on replay.

[mraynrand]

Got to love autocorrect that turns FG into fog.

Scott Norwood missed his superb owl in the fog.