4th Down Ezekiel Elliot Reach Overturn

[Harlan Huckleby]

You go with call on field, right or wrong, when there is no clear replay angle.

[wist43]

He clearly got the 1st down... get over yourselves.

[pbmax]

i don't think they should be able to use that overhead shot as the angle of the camera may not be exactly overhead and would/could affect the decision. if it were slightly behind the ball it would make it look over the line, and if it were slightly ahead of the ball it would make it look short of the line. MM needs to protest that call on that basis so it can't be used again. it's not a fixed camera location so it should be void for this purpose...other things would be ok though, but not forward progress.

Every replay at the game has that problem. Only the pylon cam is positioned to avoid this.

[pbmax]

They should just paint the ball in some kind of coating (I am not an engineer, just invent it) and put sensors everywhere.

Then have that animated review that tennis uses for line calls.

[ThunderDan]

They could put sensors inside of the ball. Problem solved.

[ThunderDan]

I know FIFA is testing sensors inside a soccer ball to make sure the ball has crossed the line on goals.

[woodbuck27]

He clearly got the 1st down... get over yourselves.

After the dust settled I thought so.

[pbmax]

I know FIFA is testing sensors inside a soccer ball to make sure the ball has crossed the line on goals.

We must not allow a ball sensor gap!!

[Pugger]

He pulled the ball back of his own volition. Should not have been a first. If the Packers had forced the ball back it would have been the right call. But his forward progress was ruled stopped on the field, which means the spot was a judgment call and therefore not subject to review.

In short, the refs were wrong thrice on the same play.

These zebras weren't the best the league has to offer...

[beveaux1]

These zebras weren't the best the league has to offer...

Boy, is this true.

[Maxie the Taxi]

What would have happened if one of our guys would have slapped the ball out of Elliott's hand when he reached it forward? It looked to me like Brice was in a position to do so but chose to push against the pile instead. Maybe Brice didn't see the ball quick enough, or maybe he didn't think quick enough. I think they would have had to call it a fumble.

[mraynrand]

What would have happened if one of our guys would have slapped the ball out of Elliott's hand when he reached it forward? It looked to me like Brice was in a position to do so but chose to push against the pile instead. Maybe Brice didn't see the ball quick enough, or maybe he didn't think quick enough. I think they would have had to call it a fumble.

It's a dead ball once forward progress has been ruled. Forward progress requires the player to be held and restrained so motion is stopped. Once motion is ruled stopped, the ball is spotted where it was when forward progress was called, which the refs ruled (on review) was the extended reach (correct). If Beasly had been contacted when he first caught the pass on the previous play, he would have made the first down with forward progress. So the ball would have had to have been knocked out before the refs ruled forward progress stopped, just before the whistle.

[Cheesehead Craig]

He got the first, Packers won anyways. No biggie.

[Maxie the Taxi]

It's a dead ball once forward progress has been ruled. Forward progress requires the player to be held and restrained so motion is stopped. Once motion is ruled stopped, the ball is spotted where it was when forward progress was called, which the refs ruled (on review) was the extended reach (correct). If Beasly had been contacted when he first caught the pass on the previous play, he would have made the first down with forward progress. So the ball would have had to have been knocked out before the refs ruled forward progress stopped, just before the whistle.

Understood. The question then becomes, when did the refs blow the whistle?

If we're gonna use overhead cams to review plays, maybe we ought to have enhanced sound in the replays the refs review.

[KYPack]

What would have happened if one of our guys would have slapped the ball out of Elliott's hand when he reached it forward? It looked to me like Brice was in a position to do so but chose to push against the pile instead. Maybe Brice didn't see the ball quick enough, or maybe he didn't think quick enough. I think they would have had to call it a fumble.

Maybe he could've swatted it, but that's like catching a lizard by his tongue.

On goal line and short yardage, you've gotta commit yourself. Brice was all bowed up to make a form tackle at the line. He did what he could.

It's getting to the point where I hate close plays that are reviewed. About the review, where was Zeke's knees in all of this? Were they on the pile or down in other words?