Montravius Adams

[ThunderDan]

I'll simply go with Sherrod was 'a BUST'.

TT doesn't do very well with 1st Round Picks.

No Woody, what you did is said "TT doesn't do very well with his first round picks." Then you listed his questionable picks.

Somehow you missed the best 1st round pick in 20+ years. That pick alone has made the Favre transition easy and seemless instead of years of crap like most franchises have at QB.

[bobblehead]

I posted strictly those First Round Picks that are Busts or have some questions attached to them.

How many clear cut 'Voted In' Pro Bowls did AJ Hawk garner? He was a very high Pick and he didn't live up to what TT might have hoped for and his College Production.

Jordy is a tremendous WR. I confined my Post to 1st Round 'PICKS'.

So woody, who would you have picked instead of Hawk? You have to drop to the 12th pick, Haloti Ngata, to find someone with a clear cut better career than Hawk. Vernon Davis, Michael Huff, ooohhh...Jay Cutler.

[bobblehead]

I posted strictly those First Round Picks that are Busts or have some questions attached to them.

How many clear cut 'Voted In' Pro Bowls did AJ Hawk garner? He was a very high Pick and he didn't live up to what TT might have hoped for and his College Production.

Jordy is a tremendous WR. I confined my Post to 1st Round 'PICKS'.

So, like a good statistician you confined your criteria to meet your predetermined outcome...well played.

[Harlan Huckleby]

He could be needed later if they have injuries on the DL.

Ya, this is certainly what they are thinking. Guy is better than practice squad talent. Injuries will happen.

[Fritz]

So Adams is inactive again?

Man, the way the writers were drooling over him in camp, I thought he was The Next Big Thing.

And by the way, I really don't recall anyonw drooling over Jerel Worthy in training camp. In fact, I think people got worried right away, as blockers swallowed him up and his quick twitch wasn't quick enough to get him past the offensive line in the NFL.

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So woody, who would you have picked instead of Hawk? You have to drop to the 12th pick, Haloti Ngata, to find someone with a clear cut better career than Hawk. Vernon Davis, Michael Huff, ooohhh...Jay Cutler.

that looks like one of the most loaded drafts of all time, at the time

but it turned out to be complete shit

[George Cumby]

So Adams is inactive again?

Man, the way the writers were drooling over him in camp, I thought he was The Next Big Thing.

And by the way, I really don't recall anyonw drooling over Jerel Worthy in training camp. In fact, I think people got worried right away, as blockers swallowed him up and his quick twitch wasn't quick enough to get him past the offensive line in the NFL.

Didn’t you pan that pick immediately? Worthy I mean.

[Guiness]

Just for comparison 1st round picks for Dallas:
2005 DeMarcus Ware, Marcus Spears
2006 Bobby Catpenter
2007 Anthony Spencer
2008 Felix Jones, Mike Jenkins
2009 No Pick
2010 Dez Bryant
2011 Tyron Smith
2012 Morris Claiborne
2013 Travis Fredrick
2014 Zack Martin
2015 Byron Jones
2016 Ezekiel Elliott
2017 Taco Charlton

Who's this No Pick guy? Did he turn out?

Seriously, I read that quickly the first time and went 'I don't remember him...' then the lightbulb went on

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Who's this No Pick guy? Did he turn out?

Seriously, I read that quickly the first time and went 'I don't remember him...' then the lightbulb went on

one of TT's best first round picks

[run pMc]

Worthy was never worthy. He never flashed anything in camp except an ability to charge offside. If Rodgers ever played against him, every play would've been a free play.

What I heard about Worthy coming out was that he was good at anticipating snap counts and his whole game was predicated on a fast get-off...but that was in college. In the pros, you need more than that and he didn't have it. Adams is a R4, they'll give him a chance to play eventually. If he doesn't pan out he won't be the first guy. Worthy flopping as a R2 was costly. My guess is Adams is healthy but learning the game and the scheme. I don't know that I'd put him on the active 46 or play him over Dial or Francois, but I think he's going to get his chance soon.

[Smidgeon]

What I heard about Worthy coming out was that he was good at anticipating snap counts and his whole game was predicated on a fast get-off...but that was in college. In the pros, you need more than that and he didn't have it. Adams is a R4, they'll give him a chance to play eventually. If he doesn't pan out he won't be the first guy. Worthy flopping as a R2 was costly. My guess is Adams is healthy but learning the game and the scheme. I don't know that I'd put him on the active 46 or play him over Dial or Francois, but I think he's going to get his chance soon.

His chance might be on the O-line if injuries keep piling up there.

[woodbuck27]

Woody, you're looking through anti-TT colored glasses, and it's majorly clouding your judgment.

From a post of mine back in April before the draft:

A nice analysis in Post #23 of this thread.

TT and the Packer Drafts of late:

https://lombardiave.com/2017/01/31/ted-thompson-deffense-draft-picks/

Ted Thompson: His last five Green Bay Packers drafts are defensive misery

By Raymond Rivard8 months agoFollow @lombardiave

" The Packers GM, who was himself a linebacker in the NFL during his playing days, however, doesn’t seem to be able to draft any player worth their salt on that side of the line.

To make a point, we’ve gone back five years – the amount of time most coaches and GMs are given to produce a Super Bowl champion – and taken a look at the defensive players drafted by Thompson.

What we found wasn’t pretty."

Please Click on the LINK above for more....



Comment woodbuck27: I simply have higher expectations based in what I expect from myself.

I don't still ever do anything and not aim to do it very well. All my life I have proven personally that outstanding effort gave me outstanding results. All my life I rose to the highest levels.I strived to be the WINNER...and too often I was or came close to the GOLD.

That hasn't changed since I joined Packerrats. If you imagine otherwise then I'll suggest you and prejudice. I trust my determination, attitude, brains, skills and wisdom. I don't give a damn and what anyone here imagines different and me. I know who I am.

As for TT. All I see now is Burn Out.

That isn't anything and a prejudice against TT. I actually like Ted Thompson as a person that is rather gentle in his style of being himself. I look at anything and try with great effort to see it as it really is. I'm a Canadian and we hate prejudice and discount anyone who instructs their life on such a lousy basis. Check out the POLLS and our Canadian view of a certain ahhhhh hahaha... I'll go with personality and the USA.

I will remain in my analysis and Green Bay Packers with this:

I hope strongly that Ted Thompson let's go of his GM position this Season. I certainly do NOT want him having any post Packer GM capacity as a Draft Advisor.

[woodbuck27]

I think you are being rather harsh in your assessment of Raji's play. He had 152 solo tackles and 11 sacks as a nose tackle in 6 years.

What did you see him become?

[mraynrand]

What did you see him become?

A guy who had 152 solo tackles and 11 sacks as a nose tackle in 6 years.

[woodbuck27]

So woody, who would you have picked instead of Hawk? You have to drop to the 12th pick, Haloti Ngata, to find someone with a clear cut better career than Hawk. Vernon Davis, Michael Huff, ooohhh...Jay Cutler.

There is so much that is LUCK and making a Draft Pick. The picks below were certainly productive game changers for their teams:

12 Baltimore Ravens Haloti Ngata DT Oregon

14 Philadelphia Eagles Brodrick Bunkley DT Florida State

17 Minnesota Vikings Chad Greenway LB Iowa

20 Kansas City Chiefs Tamba Hali DE Penn State

I didn't look past the 2oth Pick; that wasn't a good Draft overall as I recall it.