Official 2018 nfl draft thread

[Fritz]

AGREE RED; Davenport scares me. Whenever I hear upside combined with lack of production and might need to be coached up to develop I'm scared.

WE have ready made players. Still praying one of the FAB FIVE drops

EDMUNDS AND WARD .....I think they might be the Terrifice Two
Roquan Smith
James and Fitzpatrick

Rumors everywhere Buffalo, Miami, and Arizona are trying to trade up.

GOOD NEWS IF THEY DO...especially to a team that does NOT need a QB

MY DREAM SCENARIO................We're sitting at 14 with one of those guys left

GOOTER BLUFFS that somebody is moving ahead of Arizona.

AZ Trades up a pick to get a QB and we get another pick.

It's been done before

I'm down with Bretsky and Red on Davenport. 8.5 sacks against the Southwest Texas Community Colleges of the world is not going to cut it in the NFL.

[woodbuck27]

AGREE RED; Davenport scares me. Whenever I hear upside combined with lack of production and might need to be coached up to develop I'm scared.

WE have ready made players. Still praying one of the FAB FIVE drops

EDMUNDS AND WARD .....I think they might be the Terrifice Two
Roquan Smith
James and Fitzpatrick

Rumors everywhere Buffalo, Miami, and Arizona are trying to trade up.

GOOD NEWS IF THEY DO...especially to a team that does NOT need a QB

MY DREAM SCENARIO................We're sitting at 14 with one of those guys left

GOOTER BLUFFS that somebody is moving ahead of Arizona.

AZ Trades up a pick to get a QB and we get another pick.

It's been done before

Mae has scouted Marcus Davenport Vs Harold Landry at EDGE and says all day it's Landry over Davenport. Mae says that Davenport appears stiff to her and she loves Landry's athleticism. She says that with the correct attitude and maintaining or expanding good muscle and with proper Packer Coaching; Harold Landry is a solid Risk at NO. 14. That Pick (and an improved Pass Rush) helps take pressure off the ** weakend Packer Secondary.

** weakened ...I mean as in weaker that last Season !? Holy CRAP. I'm not happy to admit that's the case.

Will the Packer BRASS now PANIC with the NO. 14 Pick? That Pick has to be used to improve the Packers lousy Pass Rush. It's shameful what has happened to the Packer Defense because of indecision and poor management.

I don't mince my word because it's plainly obvious the neglect. Thank GOD Ted Thompson's history.

I'm really OK with EDGE Harold Landry. I can live with the Packers going with either WR Calvin Ridley (but I have some reservations there too)..... or CB Joshua Jackson who I rank slightly lower than ILB Rashaan Evans.

I know Packerrats won't buy into this but the football player Prospect that really excited Mae was ILB Rashaan EVANS (Alabama). Who wouldn't like this player on film. I actually rank his skills above Harold Landry's as the better pick at NO. 14 in Rd. 1. I have him being an ideal fit for the Pittsburgh Steelers Pick at NO.

[red]

Mae has scouted Marcus Davenport Vs Harold Landry at EDGE and says all day it's Landry over Davenport. Mae says that Davenport appears stiff to her and she loves Landry's athleticism. She says that with the correct attitude and maintaining or expanding good muscle and with proper Packer Coaching; Harold Landry is a solid Risk at NO. 14. That Pick (and an improved Pass Rush) helps take pressure off the ** weakend Packer Secondary.

** weakened ...I mean as in weaker that last Season !? Holy CRAP. I'm not happy to admit that's the case.

Will the Packer BRASS now PANIC with the NO. 14 Pick? That Pick has to be used to improve the Packers lousy Pass Rush. It's shameful what has happened to the Packer Defense because of indecision and poor management.

I don't mince my word because it's plainly obvious the neglect. Thank GOD Ted Thompson's history.

I'm really OK with EDGE Harold Landry. I can live with the Packers going with either WR Calvin Ridley (but I have some reservations there too)..... or CB Joshua Jackson who I rank slightly lower than ILB Rashaan Evans.

I know Packerrats won't buy into this but the football player Prospect that really excited Mae was ILB Rashaan EVANS (Alabama). Who wouldn't like this player on film. I actually rank his skills above Harold Landry's as the better pick at NO. 14 in Rd. 1. I have him being an ideal fit for the Pittsburgh Steelers Pick at NO.

alabama defenders, especially the MLB's never seem to live up to the hype to me

i don't know. thats my big concern about evans

i think its easy to look good when your team has that much talent on the field and your coach is by far the best one in the game

[HarveyWallbangers]

Davenport has plenty of talent, and I like his potential. I just don't think he's a 3-4 OLB. Watching him at the combine, he's not fluid in coverage. I like him as a 4-3 DE. He could play the elephant position though. He's more Nick Perry than Clay Matthews. I think that knocks down his value a little bit for us--enough that I wouldn't love the pick. If he's all we are left with, I'd rather trade back and pick Isaiah Oliver.

[Bretsky]

Davenport has plenty of talent, and I like his potential. I just don't think he's a 3-4 OLB. Watching him at the combine, he's not fluid in coverage. I like him as a 4-3 DE. He could play the elephant position though. He's more Nick Perry than Clay Matthews. I think that knocks down his value a little bit for us--enough that I wouldn't love the pick. If he's all we are left with, I'd rather trade back and pick Isaiah Oliver.

ya..he's an undersized DE; you and I both love Isaiah Oliver

At one point I had him pegged as our round 2 pick

But I don't think he's getting out of round one

Really really like Edmunds; Ditto for Oliver
Wish there was a way to end up with both

[red]

ya..he's an undersized DE; you and I both love Isaiah Oliver

At one point I had him pegged as our round 2 pick

But I don't think he's getting out of round one

Really really like Edmunds; Ditto for Oliver
Wish there was a way to end up with both

this is the time of year players keep jumping up the board for no reason

one mock thinks maybe one team could reach for a player, then a few more copy that idea, then another mock says, well if that teams willing to reach, then maybe this team will reach a bit more, then that mock is copied

pretty soon you have a bunch of mock drafts (most of whom only have a passing knowledge of football), who have 3rd round talent going in the middle of the 1st

[woodbuck27]

alabama defenders, especially the MLB's never seem to live up to the hype to me

i don't know. thats my big concern about evans

i think its easy to look good when your team has that much talent on the field and your coach is by far the best one in the game

Yes I agree and factored that in there. The Alabama DL is a huge assist for ILB Rashaan Evans. I have him being picked by the Steelers.

[pbmax]

How to Succeed With Josh Allen. Bonus positive mention of Bill O'Brien.

This guy doesn't think the accuracy issues are mechanical, but a result of slow processing of reads. Simplify your offense, get him comfortable and that will make up for his slower read and setup to throw. But hoo boy some of those clips make it look like he's going to get walloped while getting his trebuchet ready to throw.

https://www.ndtscouting.com/solak-the-path-to-success-with-josh-allen-at-1-overall/

[Deputy Nutz]

Davenport is not a cover guy, but when do the Packers ask their rush end to cover? I mean I have seen him run with running backs out of the backfield on wheel routes so he can do it and he did a nice job of recognition. I have said my talking points on Davenport. I would rather the Packer go a different direction at 14 than Davenport or Landry, but out of the two I would take Davenport.

[mraynrand]

But hoo boy some of those clips make it look like he's going to get walloped while getting his trebuchet ready to throw.

People said the same thing about Pete Townshend and see what happened...

[Zool]

People said the same thing about Pete Townshend and see what happened...

He impaled his hand with a wammy

[woodbuck27]

Comment woodbuck27:

Could something like this cause his Draft Status to take a hit and result in him falling or is this to be interpreted as simply an isolated incident?

http://www.newbernsj.com/sports/20160229/football-hughes-no-longer-on-unc-football-team

Football: (Mike) Hughes no longer on UNC football team

Please note the date:

By Sun Journal Staff ...Posted Feb 29, 2016 at 7:52 PM ...Updated Feb 29, 2016 at 7:54 PM

[call_me_ishmael]

The thing that I don't get is what's wrong with Davenport that he is going to be available at 14? How many 6'6" DEs with that size can run like he does? Even if he's green as grass, they still go very high in the draft. His comps on paper at Peppers, Williams, and Clowney. Obviously those people went at the top of the draft for a reason besides level of competition, so what does this fella lack?

[Fritz]

Good competition.

[woodbuck27]

Comment woodbuck27:

Would you consider this Prospect late in the Packers Draft? This is quite the story and OLB Prospect Shaquem Griffin, UCF, 6'2" and 229 lbs.

http://www.nfl.com/labs/cfb247/shaqu...m-griffin.html

One Heart

By Chase Goodbread | Jan. 22, 2018