Official 2018 nfl draft thread

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wait, is the draft this thursday?

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After hearing the chatter this weekend how how bad this draft is at the top, and how uniquely good it is in rounds 2 and 3, I suspect the Packers will trade down and turn over more of their roster. They need some freshness.

so its gonna turn into just every other season when we draft late in round one, and everyone bitches about how that is the reason why we never have elite talent

this is the first time in forever that we have a high pick, and you want to get rid of it?

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Brian Carriveau at Cheesehead TV sees this first round unfolding like our draft board does. Pessimistically. Though he eliminates several popular possible Packer picks because he doesn't think they fit or are worth the risk.

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/packers-2018-first-round-prediction-145?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

The players likely to go early in the first round and the order in which the Packers would take them. He also thinks they all going to be gone.

1. Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
2. Bradley Chubb, EDGE, N.C. State
3. Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia
4. Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State
5. Quenton Nelson, OL, Notre Dame

Then there are skill positions the Packer may not be looking at early:

6. Josh Allen
7. Sam Darold
8. Baker Mayfield
9. Josh Rosen
10. Saquon Barkley.

He says: "Should any of these five players drop to 14, the Packers should entertain a potential trade down for the right package. And we probably shouldn’t ignore Lamar Jackson either given the value of quarterbacks in today’s NFL."

Then the players likely to be taken high he wants the Packers to avoid:

11. Tremaine Edmunds - young player without a natural position immediately
12. Derwin James - very good safety who will be asked to be slot corner 30 times a game
13. Josh Jackson - tweener who would look at home drafted by Ted and miscast in Dom's defense

Which leaves the Packers with Harold Landry and Marcus Davenport. You can read him to see who he chooses.

so this guy thinks that somehow 13 other teams pass on the top 5 talent in the draft, AND decide not to trade down?

i'm with nuts. i think this guy sounds like a madden fanboy more then someone who should be writing articles about real football

or a packer fanboy who has never watched a game that didn't feature the packers

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Does this guy have any actual football credentials?

I don't know. This is where Aaron Nagler got his start I think, but not sure who's site it is. He's been around for awhile but I don't know the track record.

I do think its representative of the current movement of mocks to lean more defensive at the top. The only guy on offense to move up is Rosen, who a lot of people have decided is going to the Jets.

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http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-live-nfl-mock-draft-20180423-htmlstory.html

Beat Writer Mock Draft

1. Cleveland | Josh Allen — Mary Kay Cabot, Plain Dealer

2. NY Giants | Saquon Barkley — Tom Rock, Newsday

3. NY Jets | Sam Darnold — Brian Costello, New York Post

4. Cleveland | Bradley Chubb — Jeff Schudel, News-Herald

5. Denver | Baker Mayfield — Mike Klis, 9News

6. Indianapolis | Roquan Smith — Mike Chappel, CBS4/FOX59

7. Tampa Bay | Quentin Nelson — Rick Stroud, Tampa Bay Times

8. Chicago | Minkah Fitzpatrick — Rich Campbell, Chicago Tribune

9. San Francisco | Tremaine Edmunds — Matt Barrows, Sacramento Bee

10. Oakland | Denzel Ward — Michael Gehlken, Las Vegas Review-Journal

11. Miami | Derwin James — Omar Kelly, South Florida Sun-Sentinel

12. Buffalo | Josh Rosen — Jay Skurski, Buffalo News

13. Washington | Vita Vea — Kimberley Martin, Washington Post

14. Green Bay | Marcus Davenport — Pete Dougherty, Green Bay Press Gazette

15. Arizona | Calvin Ridley — Kent Somers, Arizona Republic

16. Baltimore Ravens | Mike McGlinchey — Jeff Zrebiec, Baltimore Sun

17. CHARGERS | Da’ Ron Payne — Dan Woike, Los Angeles Times

18. Seattle Seahawks | Christian Kirk — Bob Condotta, Seattle Times

19. Dallas Cowboys | Taven Bryan — David Moore, Dallas Morning News

20. Detroit Lions | Harold Landry — Dave Birkett, Detroit Free Press

21. Cincinnati Bengals | Billy Price — Paul Dehner, Cincinnati Enquirer

22. Buffalo Bills | Leighton Vander Esch — Tim Graham, Buffalo News

23. New England Patriots | Connor Williams — Ben Volin, Boston Globe

24. Carolina Panthers | D.J. Moore — Joe Person, Charlotte Observer

25. Tennessee Titans | Rashaan Evans — Paul Kuharsky, The Zone/PaulKuharsky.com

26. Atlanta Falcons | Isaiah Wynn — D. Orlando Ledbetter, Atlanta Journal-Constitution

27. New Orleans Saints | Will Hernandez — Jeff Duncan, New Orleans Times-Picayune

28. Pittsburgh Steelers | Jaire Alexander — Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

29. Jacksonville Jaguars | Hayden Hurst — Ryan O’Hallaran, Florida Times-Union

30. Minnesota Vikings | Dallas Goedert — Matthew Coller, ESPN

31. New England Patriots | Mason Rudolph — Karen Guregian, Boston Herald

32. Philadelphia Eagles | Ronald Jones II — Les Bowen, Philadelphia Daily News

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So none of the beat writers see Lamar Jackson going in the first round? Interesting.

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So none of the beat writers see Lamar Jackson going in the first round? Interesting.

Yeah. Lotta people think the Cardinals take him.

The Jets' beat guy is also one of the few not buying into the Jet's drafting Rosen as well.

[call_me_ishmael]

so its gonna turn into just every other season when we draft late in round one, and everyone bitches about how that is the reason why we never have elite talent

this is the first time in forever that we have a high pick, and you want to get rid of it?

No. If it were me I would trade up for Chubb and call it a day. A Star makes up for limited depth. If not Chubb, then Roquan Smith. The Packers need a star desperately.

But I don't think they're going to trade-up. I simply do not see a player at 14 that is a cut above the rest. It feels like 10-12 is a significant drop-off in talent assuming 4 QBs go in the top 10. It feels more responsible to trade down I guess.

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31. New England Patriots | Mason Rudolph — Karen Guregian, Boston Herald

The Pats pick Mason Rudolph over Lamar Jackson !?

https://www.drafttek.com/2018-NFL-Draft-Prospect-Rankings/Top-QBs.asp

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects/QB?college=allColleges&page=1&status=ALL

https://gbnreport.com/2018-qb-ranking/

[woodbuck27]

No. If it were me I would trade up for Chubb and call it a day. A Star makes up for limited depth. If not Chubb, then Roquan Smith. The Packers need a star desperately.

But I don't think they're going to trade-up. I simply do not see a player at 14 that is a cut above the rest. It feels like 10-12 is a significant drop-off in talent assuming 4 QBs go in the top 10. It feels more responsible to trade down I guess.

Here are the TOP 20 Graded Prospects by NFL.COM:

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects/allPositions?college=allColleges&page=1&status=ALL

Note EDGE Harold Landry makes it as NO. 16th Ranged Prospect on Page One..

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects/allPositions?college=allColleges&page=2&status=ALL

EDGE Markus Davenport makes it as the 29th Graded Prospect on Page Two.

Then you have this:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000926642/article/hot-150-gil-brandts-topranked-prospects-for-2018-nfl-draft

AND THIS:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000927595/article/mike-mayocks-2018-nfl-draft-position-rankings-30

and ....... you scratch your head hahaha.

[woodbuck27]

I bet its part of the calculation, but I wonder if at some point Ted or Ted simulacrum says "its hard enough to draft good players, lets not compare the Guard to the Tackle hopefuls on the roster".

I think you need to do BPA in this case and if you land on Nelson, hope the very good Guard helps the so-so Tackle spot. Given their track record of drafting all Tackles all the time, I wonder how high Nelson's score would need to be. Sitton was obviously a Guard in the draft, but he played Tackle in college and was a fourth round pick.


Now that I have written Ted simulacrum, I want the Packers to put a cardboard cutout of Ted in front of the podium of the media room during the draft.

Here you go. Does anyone have a Sharpie !?

[woodbuck27]

If he is there and all the top shelf defensive players are off the board he would be a no brainer. Heck even if it was between him and Smith, or Edmunds it's at least a coin flip. The Packers have holes on their offensive line, and if it wasn't for such a shitty defense it would be the biggest need for the Packers

Yup.

They must ensure the NO. 1 Priority is keeping Aaron Rodgers on his feet.

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Here are the TOP 20 Graded Prospects by NFL.COM:

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects/allPositions?college=allColleges&page=1&status=ALL

Note EDGE Harold Landry makes it as NO. 16th Ranged Prospect on Page One..

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects/allPositions?college=allColleges&page=2&status=ALL

EDGE Markus Davenport makes it as the 29th Graded Prospect on Page Two.

Then you have this:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000926642/article/hot-150-gil-brandts-topranked-prospects-for-2018-nfl-draft

AND THIS:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000927595/article/mike-mayocks-2018-nfl-draft-position-rankings-30

and ....... you scratch your head hahaha.

Sorry I am not a fan of Landry. He doesn't pop off on film. He is in a 4 point stance 95% of the time and he doesn't use his hands well. He lacks explosion off the ball. To me he looks like the least productive guy in the top 5. I would much rather have Davenport.

Compare tapes of Chubb and Landry and they are not even in the same stratosphere.

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Sorry I am not a fan of Landry. He doesn't pop off on film. He is in a 4 point stance 95% of the time and he doesn't use his hands well. He lacks explosion off the ball. To me he looks like the least productive guy in the top 5. I would much rather have Davenport.

Compare tapes of Chubb and Landry and they are not even in the same stratosphere.

This commentary somehow makes me believe 1) Landry will be the pick and 2) everything you predicted is accurate.

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Not sure I can remember a draft where this is less consensus about who the 1st pick will be.