Put up or Shut up

[Bossman641]

Lol we're down the top 5 tackles and a starting guard.. and that'd without even addressing the defense. There's not a team in the league that could overcome all that.

[Rutnstrut]

Lol we're down the top 5 tackles and a starting guard.. and that'd without even addressing the defense. There's not a team in the league that could overcome all that.

It wouldn't matter. The line is terrible even when it's the starters. But keep making excuses for TT and stubby.

[Smidgeon]

Hundley will be fine.

The rest of the team though, might get him killed or behind by 30 in the second half.

When he had time to throw the ball (being protected on the outsides by the fifth guard and the 7th guard--or 6th tackle depending on how you look at it), he did throw a very pretty ball. He had a couple spots where he missed the underneath guy or didn't lead his receiver too much, but we're spoiled by Rodgers there anyway.

Time to see how good the WRs really are.

[Bossman641]

It wouldn't matter. The line is terrible even when it's the starters. But keep making excuses for TT and stubby.

News flash... it hasn't been the starters. I think you can get by without a stud ol but you need repetition. We've had a different starting 5 every game and have had linemen go down during the games as well. Tough to get any kind of consistency with all that going on.

[call_me_ishmael]

Saints - L 38-16

Not a ton of time to prepare, Saints had offensive burst against DET so expect more of the same.

Lions - L 35-17

MM is legit off the bye but DET too good. Stafford is much better than what's-his-face.

@Bears - L 24-21

John Fox is a great coach coaching for his job, he'll have his team ready to go here.

Ravens - W 21-17

John Harbaugh is the second best coach in the NFL but they just don't have it movin' right now. Is Flocco back yet?

@Steelers - L 35-13

Heinz field will be rockin'. Tough place, tough team.

Buccaneers - Coin flip

Could go either way. Bucs have some young talent and seem poised to get it going soonish.

@Browns - W 24-7

LOL. Da Browns got nothing but Joe Thomas.

@Panthers - L 38-16 If Kuchley is playing

Panthers are a different team with LK. If he's playing, they are a super bowl contender in NFC. If not, well, we all saw 2016.

Vikings - L 27-16

Vikes are the best team in the NFCN but Detroit has the better QB. Expect Vikes to win this game and drop close division to DET.

@Lions - L 35-16 Happy New Year

Stafford clinches the division and is the most beloved player in the league.

I've got 'em winning at most 3 more games. This is just spit balling off the top of my head. I'm wrong a lot so I'll probably be wrong here too.

[Pugger]

It wouldn't matter. The line is terrible even when it's the starters. But keep making excuses for TT and stubby.

Bull. When healthy we have one of the top tackle tandems in the league. Last year our line was ranked in the top 10. Lane Taylor is a find guard and surprised me at tackle when Bahk went down (he ain't Lang but he ain't terrible either). Evans isn't what he once was but is is serviceable. I don't have a problem with the offense. The defense is another issue entirely...

[bobblehead]

Hundley could play pretty well, and we will still lose a lot of games. The talent around him is not adequate, especially with all the injuries.

We will certainly find out if that is true. Another possibility is that Hundley does NOT play well and that is on TT and MM as well. They have had 3 camps to decide he is capable as a backup. If he is not, its their fault for not recognizing that and bringing in a veteran.

[bobblehead]

Lol we're down the top 5 tackles and a starting guard.. and that'd without even addressing the defense. There's not a team in the league that could overcome all that.

I agree the offense has excuses, but the defense does not. We have a ton of high picks on that side of the ball and we are relatively healthy. If they don't perform during this stretch then TT or Dom have to go.

[bobblehead]

It wouldn't matter. The line is terrible even when it's the starters. But keep making excuses for TT and stubby.

Your problem is that ridiculous statements like this make you unbelievable on the rare occasion you make a good point. Really...starting your 7th best OL at LT and your 8th at LG doesn't matter?

Last year behind the healthy OL they were 20th in the league in rushing yards, but 8th in Y/A. When you have Rodgers at QB that is very acceptable. When your RB is a converted WR due to injuries its laudable.

Ur that guy that compares the packers to the team in the league that is #1 at each different thing and bitches that they aren't as good as that team. It reflects poorly.

[pbmax]

When he had time to throw the ball (being protected on the outsides by the fifth guard and the 7th guard--or 6th tackle depending on how you look at it), he did throw a very pretty ball. He had a couple spots where he missed the underneath guy or didn't lead his receiver too much, but we're spoiled by Rodgers there anyway.

Time to see how good the WRs really are.

The touch passes needed a little work. None of the screens were open. DL read them every time.

[pbmax]

I agree the offense has excuses, but the defense does not. We have a ton of high picks on that side of the ball and we are relatively healthy. If they don't perform during this stretch then TT or Dom have to go.

No excuses, but they were missing their top two corners and safety.

And then there were more injuries. Safety is deep enough to cover it. Not sure CB is.

[bobblehead]

No excuses, but they were missing their top two corners and safety.

And then there were more injuries. Safety is deep enough to cover it. Not sure CB is.

I still put that on TT and Dom though. Their next corners are the former 1 and 2 picks. There is a lot invested at CB for it to suck completely.

[smuggler]

It wouldn't matter. The line is terrible even when it's the starters. But keep making excuses for TT and stubby.

Put up good posts or shut up, please!

[bobblehead]

Put up good posts or shut up, please!

repped...just for bagging on rut in a creative way using the threads theme.

[pbmax]

I still put that on TT and Dom though. Their next corners are the former 1 and 2 picks. There is a lot invested at CB for it to suck completely.

I agree to a point, but even the #2 pick was injured coming into game.

However, they haven't progressed enough.

I am not in the ban Dom camp, but would you agree he isn't as good identifying young talent as the O coaches are?

McCarthy has missed, but he recognized Lang, Allison, Adams and others early. The entire Defense needs a second year jump like Clark and Lowry have taken.