Official Fire Dom Capers Thread

[pbmax]

I think you partially answered your own question right there: last year Peppers looked like a player well into his decline whereas Fackrell, at least to somebody's eyes, still had an upside. Maybe he does and it just hasn't been tapped yet. Or maybe TT has gotten careless in his evaluation of talent, like the old Don driving with Fredo and getting out of the car to visit the fruit stand. At the time the decision to let Peppers go--assuming that it was really a Packer decision--didn't look so bad, and it certainly fit with TT's development MO. But maybe it wasn't really the Packers' decision, maybe Peppers decided he wanted to play out his final season back home and he is now going out in style.

If that is the case, then its a thin hope. You have Fackrell and Biegel. One gets hurt then Brooks is signed. Just seems undermanned unless you are sure about Fackrell.

Pass rush is about the QB as much as beating your man. If the QB has to move, then EVERYONE's pass rush gets better and easier.

[pbmax]

Better team also helps. It's still on Capers and TT.

There is no doubt the lack of pass rush hurts and that is mostly on Thompson.

[Maxie the Taxi]

... on third down the opposing QB will have all day and all night to throw, unless Capers rushes five or six, in which case the opposing team seems to know it's coming, and so screen plays go for fifteen or twenty yards.

Not only does the opposition seem to know what's coming, but from where as well. When Dom sent all the dogs up the middle, Detroit ran a screen to the outside and game over.

[Fritz]

Yes. And on Ted's shoulders lies the very big mistake of wasting a third round pick on Fackrell. That guy is as effective as a sack of potatoes thrown onto the field. Frankly, Rollins, too, was a terrible pick. And Datone Jones.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Yes. And on Ted's shoulders lies the very big mistake of wasting a third round pick on Fackrell. That guy is as effective as a sack of potatoes thrown onto the field. Frankly, Rollins, too, was a terrible pick. And Datone Jones.

I actually liked the Fackrell selection. I guess I was persuaded by the glowing scouting reports. I'm hoping he'll make strides next year after he puts some weight room time in.

[hoosier]

Yes. And on Ted's shoulders lies the very big mistake of wasting a third round pick on Fackrell. That guy is as effective as a sack of potatoes thrown onto the field. Frankly, Rollins, too, was a terrible pick. And Datone Jones.

Don't forget Jerel Worthy and Rich Rod. They have all turned out to be bad picks, but in order to decide whether or not that is a strike against TT you'd have to look at how his drafts have compared to those of other teams. My intuition is that his bust rate is better than average (fewer busts) but that in recent years his "home runs" have been few and far between. Is that because the Packers are drafting toward the end of each round, or because the don't develop talent, or because the schemes they use are inadequate, or because TT hasn't been able to put together the right balance between position units? If you believe that the primary problem with the defense is lack of pass rush then the lion's share of the blame would seem to fall on TT for ignoring the positional straw that stirs the defensive drink. That might also explain why guys like Hayward and Hyde have had immediate success after leaving. Except that on paper San Diego's pass rush was no better than Green Bay's last year, so not clear that pass rush explains everything.

[mraynrand]

virtually no one on the defense looks aggressive. They all look like they're playing on their heels, afraid to make a mistake. Maybe Jones and Daniels when he's not being an idiot are consistently aggressive. But it's not enough.

[Freak Out]

Thank you Mailman! Fire him now.

[ND72]

I have supported Thompson, because I think he does a pretty good job...now when you're a draft only type of team you better strike it rich, and since we haven't, and he's lacked signing free agents, it gets us to where we are today.

I have long not been a fan of either McCarthy or Capers. Even the super bowl year I brought up numerous issues I had with each. You can go through the draft picks all the way back to JUSTIN HARRELL and place blame on Thompson, but the fact is that it isn't just Thompson who makes those picks, he works hand in hand with the coaches who also make evaluations on those picks. Any good team doesn't just have the GM pick whom ever he wants, he works with scouts and coaches. The thing is who has really developed? Daniels? Clark? Burnett? Dix has fallen off this year. Matthews is still OK, but obviously isn't who he once was, and age and injuries has a lot to do with that. Perry....I want to love him, but he kind of is who he is, last year was almost a fluke. Martinez is looking nice, Ryan should be one of those develop guys who hasn't. Rollins and Randall have disappointed. Jones has huge potential. I was a big fan of King, but am seeing flaws in him that need coaching...but I'm not sure if he's getting the coaching to improve. Lowry has improved, but his ceiling was rather low to start with. My hope is Adams and Biegel start to get some snaps and show signs of life, because we need it.

Capers has to go. Radio today they said if you believe it's the players, then it's on Thompson. If you believe it's the scheme, it's on Capers. I believe it's the scheme.

Oh, anyone else catch this from Matthew Stafford last night? Matthew Stafford, “We had some success because we knew what blitz’s or which blitz’s would be coming, especially on third down. The screen that almost went for the touchdown, we went to the line with 3 plays. If they were doing a middle blitz, which they did, we ran the screen. If they ran a slot blitz, we were running a bubble, if they weren’t running any, we had another play in mind. When they blitz the middle, they’ll drop one of their safeties close to the line, typically Dix because in dime or Nickel Burnett is usually up already anyway, for middle protection. If they brought their slot guy, they would slide Martinez over to cover for his blitz. So when Dix slid down, and both Perry & Matthew slid into an inside gap, we knew exactly what blitz was coming. That happened on almost all our 3rd down plays tonight.”

[woodbuck27]

TT and MM have Dom Capers in place as the Packer DC. That and for way too long. Wist43 has always been right.

I have been right.

FIRE ALL THREE Of Them !

[Fritz]

I have supported Thompson, because I think he does a pretty good job...now when you're a draft only type of team you better strike it rich, and since we haven't, and he's lacked signing free agents, it gets us to where we are today.

I have long not been a fan of either McCarthy or Capers. Even the super bowl year I brought up numerous issues I had with each. You can go through the draft picks all the way back to JUSTIN HARRELL and place blame on Thompson, but the fact is that it isn't just Thompson who makes those picks, he works hand in hand with the coaches who also make evaluations on those picks. Any good team doesn't just have the GM pick whom ever he wants, he works with scouts and coaches. The thing is who has really developed? Daniels? Clark? Burnett? Dix has fallen off this year. Matthews is still OK, but obviously isn't who he once was, and age and injuries has a lot to do with that. Perry....I want to love him, but he kind of is who he is, last year was almost a fluke. Martinez is looking nice, Ryan should be one of those develop guys who hasn't. Rollins and Randall have disappointed. Jones has huge potential. I was a big fan of King, but am seeing flaws in him that need coaching...but I'm not sure if he's getting the coaching to improve. Lowry has improved, but his ceiling was rather low to start with. My hope is Adams and Biegel start to get some snaps and show signs of life, because we need it.

Capers has to go. Radio today they said if you believe it's the players, then it's on Thompson. If you believe it's the scheme, it's on Capers. I believe it's the scheme.

Oh, anyone else catch this from Matthew Stafford last night? Matthew Stafford, “We had some success because we knew what blitz’s or which blitz’s would be coming, especially on third down. The screen that almost went for the touchdown, we went to the line with 3 plays. If they were doing a middle blitz, which they did, we ran the screen. If they ran a slot blitz, we were running a bubble, if they weren’t running any, we had another play in mind. When they blitz the middle, they’ll drop one of their safeties close to the line, typically Dix because in dime or Nickel Burnett is usually up already anyway, for middle protection. If they brought their slot guy, they would slide Martinez over to cover for his blitz. So when Dix slid down, and both Perry & Matthew slid into an inside gap, we knew exactly what blitz was coming. That happened on almost all our 3rd down plays tonight.”

That is damning of Capers, absolutely.

But Matt needs to learn that you don't make words plural by adding an apostrophe.

[ND72]

That is damning of Capers, absolutely.

But Matt needs to learn that you don't make words plural by adding an apostrophe.

That would be my awesome autocorrect that never knows what it's doing.

[The Shadow]

Give Capers his Papers!

[The Shadow]

The Answer is Blowin' in the Cheese (Seems appropriate again)

How many years can this team disappoint
Before some changes are made?
How many times can our hopes fly high
Before their allowed to fade?
How many times will our dreams wind up
Like the career of Mossy Cade?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the cheese
The answer is blowin' in the cheese.

How many times can McCarthy waste a great QB
Is it bad luck, coaching or fate?
How many DB's does Capers need
Before they can com-mun-i-cate?
How many times will we under achieve
Before it's time to cut bait?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the cheese
The answer is blowin' in the cheese.

[Zool]