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  • #46
    the triumvirate.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
      Silverstein said 7 or 8 do. The only one I can think of is Cleveland. There may be others that are more successful.

      Seattle comes to mind now. Schneider has control of the 90 man roster, Carrol the 53. And I bet John can't fire Pete without Paul Allen saying OK.

      But it usually foments lines being drawn and blame being shifted as people concentrate on what others are or are not doing.
      Murphy said in the PC that 13 teams have the coach reporting directly to the owner. Including, he said, 7 of the playoff teams. He was quick to point out that he is not an owner.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #48
        Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
        Those years shaped and scarred many of us.
        It's time for this new generation of Packer fans to learn a thing or two about pain.
        When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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        • #49
          I read the updates from Murphy's presser while on my afternoon walk today. My first thought was that PB would be extremely pleased with their new organizational structure .
          When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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          • #50
            I'll say this about Murphy. He inherited an organizational structure that he felt was no longer working as well as it used to. Rather than continue with the status quo, he made changes, knowing he will be blamed if it doesn't work. Aren't most people around here unsatisfied with the status quo?
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #51
              Gosh, what a bunch of nervous nellies on steroids.

              The Good that outweighs any bad here is getting rid of Ted Thompson. The worst case would be a conspiracy - triumverate of Ted followers if you want to call it that - seeking to continue his rotten way of doing things. I don't think that is the case, though. Clearly, all this title shifting was for the purpose of getting people they wanted to stay. Undoubtedly, neither Gutekunst or anybody else would have taken the GM job without a clear definition of the limits of everybody's authority. And McCarthy - who Murphy and/or the Board clearly want to keep happy - would not have been happy with the power to fire him handed to someone new guy or some younger with relatively less clout.

              I say again, what matters most is POLICY. We will have to see over time just what the new policy will be, but the fact that Ted was eased out seems to say that the powers that be want something different.
              What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                Seems like Ted was the Otto Von Bismarck of this org in that he was the centerpiece of a diplomatic sausage machine that only he could run. He served the function that alcohol plays at family gatherings. Got a complaint? Take it into Ted's lair. Which is pitch black except for the 4" TV ted watches film on that illuminates his head like a disembodied ghost. The floor covered in empty water bottles and discarded college basketball film. You go in there and tell him what you need but find it hard to do so with the passion you felt before you crossed the threshold. Ted nods and tells you "we'll get it cleaned up" and stares at something else.

                Its too bad he had a stroke and came to work with a lunchbox full of paint chips or whatever. That was the perfect system.
                You've watched one too many iterations of Apocalypse Now. Staring to sound like Martin Sheen vocalyzing Michael Herr. I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. Thats my dream, thats my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor. And surviving.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  I'll say this about Murphy. He inherited an organizational structure that he felt was no longer working as well as it used to. Rather than continue with the status quo, he made changes, knowing he will be blamed if it doesn't work. Aren't most people around here unsatisfied with the status quo?
                  When a root cause of failure is determined to be "communication", the solution is often to reorganize. Get the right people in the right places, break down silos, move to the cloud.
                  When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                  • #54
                    The next question comes quickly though: there is no Teryl Austin at DC and I think the prospects for Fangio are low. I have heard of no other candidates.

                    Rotoworld: ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Packers will interview ex-Browns coach Mike Pettine for their defensive-coordinator vacancy.

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                    • #55
                      Mike Pettine is known as a pretty good defensive coach, right?

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                        Mike Pettine is known as a pretty good defensive coach, right?
                        During his four years as defensive coordinator in New York, the Jets finished in the top 10 for yards allowed four times. New York was first in yards and points in 2009.
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                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                          Mike Pettine is known as a pretty good defensive coach, right?
                          Rotoworld: Pettine and Packers coach Mike McCarthy have never worked together, but both are Pennsylvania-raised and spent time at Pittsburgh in the early-'90s. Pettine has been out of the league since being fired as the Browns' head coach following the 2015 season. He ran solid defenses in Buffalo and New York as one of coach Rex Ryan's righthand men. Pettine has run 3-4 fronts in the past.

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                          • #58
                            I will gladly welcome Pettine. Forgot about him.
                            All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                            • #59
                              Perhaps most impressively, Pettine won 10 games in 2 seasons as Browns head coach. Or 9 more than Hue Jackson.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                Brian Gutekunst is GM
                                Russ Ball is now Director of Football Operations
                                Mike McCarthy is now reporting directly to Mark Murphy

                                Eliot Wolf has had his title taken by Ball. No word in press release about him.

                                Wolf was probably on a plane to Cleveland within a few hours of finding out about Gooter
                                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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