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Badger Joe.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostIs that ex-Packer Joe Thomas or ex-Badger Joe Thomas? The latter probably can afford it, the former not so much.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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They had it. That free throw by Hill was a complete throat clutch too.
Hell, LeBron was open after JR dribbled out with the rebound. And you knew they knew it because nothing went well for them in OT.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Cleveland radio is going nuts over the blocking call. 1) there was no reason to review - LeBron was out of the circle and 2) even if the two refs disagree at the MOST it should have been a jump ball. Not to mention there were several other blown calls down the stretch, but whatevs - gotta come back and win one."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Didn't see the play (or game) live. If replay counts for anything, it looks like a block to me. Feet and torso are moving but that might not be the standard anymore.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostCleveland radio is going nuts over the blocking call. 1) there was no reason to review - LeBron was out of the circle and 2) even if the two refs disagree at the MOST it should have been a jump ball. Not to mention there were several other blown calls down the stretch, but whatevs - gotta come back and win one.
Hill is an 81% free throw shooter. He just gagged on that second one. Completely tentative. Weird because if you would expect him to miss on nerves, it would be the first one when still down. I almost want to believe he threw it short and had a play on with JR; he barely got the rim and you could see it in his motion.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Controversy is mainly that the two refs disagreed in real time. The 'call on the floor' was a charge - call of closest official with best view - but they reviewed to check if James was in circle (not even close) and essentially changed the call in review to a block. If the refs disagreed (which it looked like that on the floor), they should have jumped it. They changed the call based on the review of James 'being in the circle.' It's just bad reffing, looks suspicious, even if the call itself can be justified as blocking (it was a close call).Originally posted by pbmax View PostDidn't see the play (or game) live. If replay counts for anything, it looks like a block to me. Feet and torso are moving but that might not be the standard anymore.
No way to believe a play was set up. Hill gacked, and JR pulled a Webber.Originally posted by pbmax View PostHill is an 81% free throw shooter. He just gagged on that second one. Completely tentative. Weird because if you would expect him to miss on nerves, it would be the first one when still down. I almost want to believe he threw it short and had a play on with JR; he barely got the rim and you could see it in his motion."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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NBA sounded exactly like NFL Blandinos today when they Tweeted that officials can look at the underlying call when reviewing the circle. Needs to be under 2 minutes, blah blah blah.
Replay should be banned.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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In case anyone cares:
I was trying to put James in perspective of 'best NBA players ever'
I always thought Jordan was the best I ever saw. I never really saw Wilt play or Elgin Baylor. Saw Kareem a few times in his later years. Kareem changed the game - literally, for a while. But still, there was Jordan, with his incredible ability to make plays, always make clutch shots (even if he needs to push off to get open -
). But Then James. I don't know how much you guys watch, but as little as invested as I am in the Cavs (I really don't care if they win or not), I can't believe how unreal James is. That guy takes so many fouls that never get called. He's so strong he just shrugs contact off all the time. If he got the calls Jordan got, he'd probably average 4 points/game more over his career. Yet, he still lacks titles like Jordan. Mostly because he only rarely had the surrounding cast of Jordan. Still, Jordan. That guy was amazing. So I think of it this way: If Jordan is Spider Man, James is Venom - who is Spiderman, but with a bigger stronger enhanced physique - overall better, but lacking some little ephemeral thing that only Spiderman retains to make him able to win where Venom, who should win, does not.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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The ephemeral thing he lacks is a great GM.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostIn case anyone cares:
I was trying to put James in perspective of 'best NBA players ever'
I always thought Jordan was the best I ever saw. I never really saw Wilt play or Elgin Baylor. Saw Kareem a few times in his later years. Kareem changed the game - literally, for a while. But still, there was Jordan, with his incredible ability to make plays, always make clutch shots (even if he needs to push off to get open -
). But Then James. I don't know how much you guys watch, but as little as invested as I am in the Cavs (I really don't care if they win or not), I can't believe how unreal James is. That guy takes so many fouls that never get called. He's so strong he just shrugs contact off all the time. If he got the calls Jordan got, he'd probably average 4 points/game more over his career. Yet, he still lacks titles like Jordan. Mostly because he only rarely had the surrounding cast of Jordan. Still, Jordan. That guy was amazing. So I think of it this way: If Jordan is Spider Man, James is Venom - who is Spiderman, but with a bigger stronger enhanced physique - overall better, but lacking some little ephemeral thing that only Spiderman retains to make him able to win where Venom, who should win, does not.
Not in love with basketball enough to watch too much regular season (Giannis is fun though) but I am always there for the playoffs. Same with NHL.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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The thing he lacks is the killer instinct. He didn't take a shot in OT last night until about the 2:30 mark. You think Jordan or Kobe would have let their team shoot at all over the first half of OT?
As to the fouls, he also gets phantom calls when driving and never ever gets called for pushing his defender 6 feet away. In every sport, blaming the refs for a loss is a loser mentality.Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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