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  • #61
    Final cap number, current cap space (via Spotrac) and franchise and transition numbers.



    Packers in 26th place for cap space. So enjoy your one free agent signing!
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
      Final cap number, current cap space (via Spotrac) and franchise and transition numbers.



      Packers in 26th place for cap space. So enjoy your one free agent signing!
      well, theres over 30 million that could be easily freed up by dumping 3 guys who are greatly overpaid

      i got a little bit of hope that with a-rod back that jordy can get back to being a decent #2 behind adams. cobb has not once come close to living up to his current contract, and clays career is damn near close to the end i think, not much left in that tank

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      • #63
        Originally posted by red View Post
        well, theres over 30 million that could be easily freed up by dumping 3 guys who are greatly overpaid

        i got a little bit of hope that with a-rod back that jordy can get back to being a decent #2 behind adams. cobb has not once come close to living up to his current contract, and clays career is damn near close to the end i think, not much left in that tank
        They aren't letting Cobb go and would only seek to redo the deal, if that. No chance at $30 million. Matthews, overpaid or not, is the best player on defense if Perry isn't healthy.

        My bet is only one of those deals gets redone and none of them are leaving this year. They will be bottom third in space depending on how Rodgers contract gets done.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          They aren't letting Cobb go and would only seek to redo the deal, if that. No chance at $30 million. Matthews, overpaid or not, is the best player on defense if Perry isn't healthy.

          My bet is only one of those deals gets redone and none of them are leaving this year. They will be bottom third in space depending on how Rodgers contract gets done.
          Well damn, u r depressing... I've been holding out hope we would start to see some big time changes. Stir the pot, mix things up, etc. Make this team fun to watch again...

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          • #65
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            Final cap number, current cap space (via Spotrac) and franchise and transition numbers.



            Packers in 26th place for cap space. So enjoy your one free agent signing!

            So after bashing Ted for wanting to hoard salary to carryover and never use, let us commence bashing Ted for so inconsiderately spending too much and thus handcuffing future teams.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by oldbutnotdeadyet View Post
              Well damn, u r depressing... I've been holding out hope we would start to see some big time changes. Stir the pot, mix things up, etc. Make this team fun to watch again...
              Some of the complaints about depth are just ignoring that starters cannot be replaced easily after wholesale injuries. Safety or corner.

              But WR actually needs a young talent infusion.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                Some of the complaints about depth are just ignoring that starters cannot be replaced easily after wholesale injuries. Safety or corner.

                But WR actually needs a young talent infusion.
                I was pushing for a top WR in the draft a couple of years back (early enough in the process that the public had little idea on how the first round was projected to fall). I can't find the post now, but Davante was the only young WR on the outside, and Jordy wasn't going to get younger. I remember reading an article several years ago (maybe Jordy's third season-ish) about how the outside WR that lines up on the line who can get a good release against press coverage is the WR that makes it all work (whichever receiver letter that is). Jordy was projected into that role (before he broke out). That article has stuck with me ever since. Davante might be a legit #1. But I'd like two guys who look like that with Rodgers at QB.
                No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                • #68
                  Packers rookie pool over $8 mil, about half of available cap.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Packers rookie pool over $8 mil, about half of available cap.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      Packers rookie pool over $8 mil, about half of available cap.
                      That, of course, is only part of the story. Contracts get restructured; Most deals come in at way lower cap number than total face value divided by years. Other teams do a lot more with less. Ted didn't like doing that, and arguably quality of the team wasn't maximized because of it. I really hope Gutekunst sees things differently, but that remains to be seen.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                        That, of course, is only part of the story. Contracts get restructured; Most deals come in at way lower cap number than total face value divided by years. Other teams do a lot more with less. Ted didn't like doing that, and arguably quality of the team wasn't maximized because of it. I really hope Gutekunst sees things differently, but that remains to be seen.
                        Tank loves this line of thinking too, that the cap can just be avoided forever. But eventually it comes back to bite you. Just look at the mess of the Redskins or the Cowboys defense.

                        And the rookie pool is a weird deal. You have to come in at that number. But the rest of the rookie deal is based off increases from that first year. So it’s very structured and rookie deals do not tend to feature cap games like veteran deals do.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          Tank loves this line of thinking too, that the cap can just be avoided forever. But eventually it comes back to bite you. Just look at the mess of the Redskins or the Cowboys defense.

                          And the rookie pool is a weird deal. You have to come in at that number. But the rest of the rookie deal is based off increases from that first year. So it’s very structured and rookie deals do not tend to feature cap games like veteran deals do.
                          True on rookies, but the games definitely can be played on veterans' contracts. The nice thing about the NFL - compared to MLB for example - is that most of most contracts is not guaranteed. Cap hell hardly ever happens. The cap increases by such a healthy figure every year that things should be pushed to the limit in the years we still have Aaron Rodgers playing near his top level.
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                          • #73
                            Here is a template for the offseason. Covers all the steps and has some numbers.

                            Problem is, his numbers are non-sense. As of today, the Packers do not have $22 million in cap space and the rookie pool is $8 mil and not $5 mil. And after renegotiations and Rodgers signing an extension (his number, 5 years, $150 mil), if the Packers have $22 million in cap space I will eat my hat.

                            So follow the template, use better numbers. He published on the 6th, maybe the draft pool numbers were published after his deadline.

                            A look at the 2018 offseason for the Green Bay Packers, including simulated re-signings, cuts, free agency, and the draft.


                            Salary Cap

                            Estimated salary cap – $178,000,000

                            Player Salaries – $152,486,983

                            Dead Money – $4,718,533

                            Estimated Carryover – $6,400,000

                            Draft Pick Reserve – $5,000,000

                            Remaining Cap Space – $22,194,484

                            Renegotiations
                            Randall Cobb – I believe a fair offer is 4 years/$6 million per
                            Jordy Nelson – I’d give Nelson 4 years/$8 million per
                            Aaron Rodgers 5 years/$150 million with half of that guaranteed

                            Remaining Cap Space – $22,955,984

                            Cuts
                            TE Lance Kendricks – Cap Savings: $1,625,000.
                            No cut Matthews
                            No cut Bulaga
                            No cut Dix.

                            Remaining Cap Space – $24,580,984

                            Re-Signing
                            S Morgan Burnett – 3 years, $8 million/year

                            Remaining Cap Space – $18,980,984

                            Free Agency
                            CB Kyle Fuller – 4 years, $7 million/year
                            DE Muhammad Wilkerson – 4 years, $7 million/year
                            QB TJ Yates – 2 years, $1.3 million/year.
                            TE Crockett Gilmore – 3 years, $2 million/year

                            Remaining Cap Space – $6,640,984

                            Draft
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #74
                              A look at the 2018 offseason for the Green Bay Packers, including simulated re-signings, cuts, free agency, and the draft.


                              Salary Cap

                              2018 salary cap – $177,200,000

                              Player Salaries – $160,602,634 (52 players under contract, not the Top 51 number)

                              Dead Money – $4,718,533

                              2017 Carryover – $3,934,000

                              Draft Pick Reserve – $8,761,000

                              Remaining Cap Space – $7,051,833


                              Renegotiations

                              Remaining Cap Space – $



                              Cuts

                              Remaining Cap Space – $



                              Re-Signing

                              Remaining Cap Space – $



                              Free Agency

                              Remaining Cap Space – $



                              Draft
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                Here is a template for the offseason. Covers all the steps and has some numbers.

                                Problem is, his numbers are non-sense. As of today, the Packers do not have $22 million in cap space and the rookie pool is $8 mil and not $5 mil. And after renegotiations and Rodgers signing an extension (his number, 5 years, $150 mil), if the Packers have $22 million in cap space I will eat my hat.

                                So follow the template, use better numbers. He published on the 6th, maybe the draft pool numbers were published after his deadline.

                                A look at the 2018 offseason for the Green Bay Packers, including simulated re-signings, cuts, free agency, and the draft.


                                Salary Cap

                                Estimated salary cap – $178,000,000

                                Player Salaries – $152,486,983

                                Dead Money – $4,718,533

                                Estimated Carryover – $6,400,000

                                Draft Pick Reserve – $5,000,000

                                Remaining Cap Space – $22,194,484

                                Renegotiations
                                Randall Cobb – I believe a fair offer is 4 years/$6 million per
                                Jordy Nelson – I’d give Nelson 4 years/$8 million per
                                Aaron Rodgers 5 years/$150 million with half of that guaranteed

                                Remaining Cap Space – $22,955,984

                                Cuts
                                TE Lance Kendricks – Cap Savings: $1,625,000.
                                No cut Matthews
                                No cut Bulaga
                                No cut Dix.

                                Remaining Cap Space – $24,580,984

                                Re-Signing
                                S Morgan Burnett – 3 years, $8 million/year

                                Remaining Cap Space – $18,980,984

                                Free Agency
                                CB Kyle Fuller – 4 years, $7 million/year
                                DE Muhammad Wilkerson – 4 years, $7 million/year
                                QB TJ Yates – 2 years, $1.3 million/year.
                                TE Crockett Gilmore – 3 years, $2 million/year

                                Remaining Cap Space – $6,640,984

                                Draft
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                                Crockett Gillmore wants to change Positions from the TE Position to Tackle,

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