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well, theres over 30 million that could be easily freed up by dumping 3 guys who are greatly overpaidOriginally posted by pbmax View Post
i got a little bit of hope that with a-rod back that jordy can get back to being a decent #2 behind adams. cobb has not once come close to living up to his current contract, and clays career is damn near close to the end i think, not much left in that tank
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They aren't letting Cobb go and would only seek to redo the deal, if that. No chance at $30 million. Matthews, overpaid or not, is the best player on defense if Perry isn't healthy.Originally posted by red View Postwell, theres over 30 million that could be easily freed up by dumping 3 guys who are greatly overpaid
i got a little bit of hope that with a-rod back that jordy can get back to being a decent #2 behind adams. cobb has not once come close to living up to his current contract, and clays career is damn near close to the end i think, not much left in that tank
My bet is only one of those deals gets redone and none of them are leaving this year. They will be bottom third in space depending on how Rodgers contract gets done.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Well damn, u r depressing... I've been holding out hope we would start to see some big time changes. Stir the pot, mix things up, etc. Make this team fun to watch again...Originally posted by pbmax View PostThey aren't letting Cobb go and would only seek to redo the deal, if that. No chance at $30 million. Matthews, overpaid or not, is the best player on defense if Perry isn't healthy.
My bet is only one of those deals gets redone and none of them are leaving this year. They will be bottom third in space depending on how Rodgers contract gets done.
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Originally posted by pbmax View Post
So after bashing Ted for wanting to hoard salary to carryover and never use, let us commence bashing Ted for so inconsiderately spending too much and thus handcuffing future teams."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Some of the complaints about depth are just ignoring that starters cannot be replaced easily after wholesale injuries. Safety or corner.Originally posted by oldbutnotdeadyet View PostWell damn, u r depressing... I've been holding out hope we would start to see some big time changes. Stir the pot, mix things up, etc. Make this team fun to watch again...
But WR actually needs a young talent infusion.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I was pushing for a top WR in the draft a couple of years back (early enough in the process that the public had little idea on how the first round was projected to fall). I can't find the post now, but Davante was the only young WR on the outside, and Jordy wasn't going to get younger. I remember reading an article several years ago (maybe Jordy's third season-ish) about how the outside WR that lines up on the line who can get a good release against press coverage is the WR that makes it all work (whichever receiver letter that is). Jordy was projected into that role (before he broke out). That article has stuck with me ever since. Davante might be a legit #1. But I'd like two guys who look like that with Rodgers at QB.Originally posted by pbmax View PostSome of the complaints about depth are just ignoring that starters cannot be replaced easily after wholesale injuries. Safety or corner.
But WR actually needs a young talent infusion.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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That, of course, is only part of the story. Contracts get restructured; Most deals come in at way lower cap number than total face value divided by years. Other teams do a lot more with less. Ted didn't like doing that, and arguably quality of the team wasn't maximized because of it. I really hope Gutekunst sees things differently, but that remains to be seen.Originally posted by pbmax View PostPackers rookie pool over $8 mil, about half of available cap.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Tank loves this line of thinking too, that the cap can just be avoided forever. But eventually it comes back to bite you. Just look at the mess of the Redskins or the Cowboys defense.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostThat, of course, is only part of the story. Contracts get restructured; Most deals come in at way lower cap number than total face value divided by years. Other teams do a lot more with less. Ted didn't like doing that, and arguably quality of the team wasn't maximized because of it. I really hope Gutekunst sees things differently, but that remains to be seen.
And the rookie pool is a weird deal. You have to come in at that number. But the rest of the rookie deal is based off increases from that first year. So it’s very structured and rookie deals do not tend to feature cap games like veteran deals do.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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True on rookies, but the games definitely can be played on veterans' contracts. The nice thing about the NFL - compared to MLB for example - is that most of most contracts is not guaranteed. Cap hell hardly ever happens. The cap increases by such a healthy figure every year that things should be pushed to the limit in the years we still have Aaron Rodgers playing near his top level.Originally posted by pbmax View PostTank loves this line of thinking too, that the cap can just be avoided forever. But eventually it comes back to bite you. Just look at the mess of the Redskins or the Cowboys defense.
And the rookie pool is a weird deal. You have to come in at that number. But the rest of the rookie deal is based off increases from that first year. So it’s very structured and rookie deals do not tend to feature cap games like veteran deals do.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Here is a template for the offseason. Covers all the steps and has some numbers.
Problem is, his numbers are non-sense. As of today, the Packers do not have $22 million in cap space and the rookie pool is $8 mil and not $5 mil. And after renegotiations and Rodgers signing an extension (his number, 5 years, $150 mil), if the Packers have $22 million in cap space I will eat my hat.
So follow the template, use better numbers. He published on the 6th, maybe the draft pool numbers were published after his deadline.
A look at the 2018 offseason for the Green Bay Packers, including simulated re-signings, cuts, free agency, and the draft.
Salary Cap
Estimated salary cap – $178,000,000
Player Salaries – $152,486,983
Dead Money – $4,718,533
Estimated Carryover – $6,400,000
Draft Pick Reserve – $5,000,000
Remaining Cap Space – $22,194,484
Renegotiations
Randall Cobb – I believe a fair offer is 4 years/$6 million per
Jordy Nelson – I’d give Nelson 4 years/$8 million per
Aaron Rodgers 5 years/$150 million with half of that guaranteed
Remaining Cap Space – $22,955,984
Cuts
TE Lance Kendricks – Cap Savings: $1,625,000.
No cut Matthews
No cut Bulaga
No cut Dix.
Remaining Cap Space – $24,580,984
Re-Signing
S Morgan Burnett – 3 years, $8 million/year
Remaining Cap Space – $18,980,984
Free Agency
CB Kyle Fuller – 4 years, $7 million/year
DE Muhammad Wilkerson – 4 years, $7 million/year
QB TJ Yates – 2 years, $1.3 million/year.
TE Crockett Gilmore – 3 years, $2 million/year
Remaining Cap Space – $6,640,984
DraftBud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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A look at the 2018 offseason for the Green Bay Packers, including simulated re-signings, cuts, free agency, and the draft.
Salary Cap
2018 salary cap – $177,200,000
Player Salaries – $160,602,634 (52 players under contract, not the Top 51 number)
Dead Money – $4,718,533
2017 Carryover – $3,934,000
Draft Pick Reserve – $8,761,000
Remaining Cap Space – $7,051,833
Renegotiations
Remaining Cap Space – $
Cuts
Remaining Cap Space – $
Re-Signing
Remaining Cap Space – $
Free Agency
Remaining Cap Space – $
DraftBud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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QB TJ Yates: Why?Originally posted by pbmax View PostHere is a template for the offseason. Covers all the steps and has some numbers.
Problem is, his numbers are non-sense. As of today, the Packers do not have $22 million in cap space and the rookie pool is $8 mil and not $5 mil. And after renegotiations and Rodgers signing an extension (his number, 5 years, $150 mil), if the Packers have $22 million in cap space I will eat my hat.
So follow the template, use better numbers. He published on the 6th, maybe the draft pool numbers were published after his deadline.
A look at the 2018 offseason for the Green Bay Packers, including simulated re-signings, cuts, free agency, and the draft.
Salary Cap
Estimated salary cap – $178,000,000
Player Salaries – $152,486,983
Dead Money – $4,718,533
Estimated Carryover – $6,400,000
Draft Pick Reserve – $5,000,000
Remaining Cap Space – $22,194,484
Renegotiations
Randall Cobb – I believe a fair offer is 4 years/$6 million per
Jordy Nelson – I’d give Nelson 4 years/$8 million per
Aaron Rodgers 5 years/$150 million with half of that guaranteed
Remaining Cap Space – $22,955,984
Cuts
TE Lance Kendricks – Cap Savings: $1,625,000.
No cut Matthews
No cut Bulaga
No cut Dix.
Remaining Cap Space – $24,580,984
Re-Signing
S Morgan Burnett – 3 years, $8 million/year
Remaining Cap Space – $18,980,984
Free Agency
CB Kyle Fuller – 4 years, $7 million/year
DE Muhammad Wilkerson – 4 years, $7 million/year
QB TJ Yates – 2 years, $1.3 million/year.
TE Crockett Gilmore – 3 years, $2 million/year
Remaining Cap Space – $6,640,984
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