Official Packers Offseason News, Non Draft, Non Big Ticket FA

[3irty1]

Packers would save about 10 million by releasing Jordy. 10 million puts you in the top 15 highest paid WR's. I don't see Jordy returning to that status.

This is completely discounting opportunity costs. First, the top 15 highest paid WRs is not the same as the best 15 WRs. Second 10M may buy a Keenan Allen level talent if that deal was an extension from 2016... but that's not the same as saying Keenan Allen could be bought in 2018 FA for 10M. He couldn't. I think if cut Jordy is likely to get 10M elsewhere. He's making close to market value. If we were to release him and go after someone better, this likely makes the highest paid unit in the league more highly paid.

[texaspackerbacker]

Cobb seems to have hit his ceiling, and $12 million + is too much for him. Nelson costs about the same and played worse than Cobb, but there's a chance, albeit slim, that with more recovery time from his knee injury, he could regain some speed. I'd say good bye to Cobb, and I'd offer Nelson maybe half or slightly more what he's due to make with some incentives for very high performance - a take it or leave it offer.

I really think we have more than adequate replacements for both of them in house right now: Janis, Davis, Yancy, Clark. Give those guys a chance, and they will succeed. One of McCarthy's worst traits, though, is not using quality young players. Those times he has been forced to do so or departed from this usual policy, most of those players have done well.

Allen Robinson, to my recollection, was mostly a possession receiver and is coming off an ACL injury. I'd steer clear of him. We need speed guys to go with a possession guy like Adams.

[pbmax]

Technically, this is draft news, but its old as dirt so in this thread it goes.

Lawrence Guy, Marshall Newhouse, Breno Giacomini, Jamon Meredith and Will Blackmon, we hardly knew ye.

Draft Busts That Weren't: http://packerstalk.com/2018/02/02/pa...s-that-werent/

[pbmax]

Tailgate tour will be in two cities I can be in with short notice.

Send your questions about Antonio Freeman and Bubba Franks and we'll see what we can do. I am going to try to keep Murphy from getting back on the bus.

https://twitter.com/jasonjwilde/status/960626263382773762

[mraynrand]

Tailgate tour will be in two cities I can be in with short notice.

Send your questions about Antonio Freeman and Bubba Franks and we'll see what we can do. I am going to try to keep Murphy from getting back on the bus.

https://twitter.com/jasonjwilde/stat...26263382773762

Just make sure to tell Monty that he isn't a running back because he doesn't have natural running back instincts and pad level. Tell him Packerrats says so. Then invite him to join the forum.

[pbmax]

Aaron Nagler thinks Malcolm Butler is just what the Packers need at corner. I think he is an idiot.

Butler, a UDFA, has had two seasons (2015, 17) allowing better than 94 passer rating on throws to his man. He had one year under 80 (2016).

He is going to command dumb money from someone who cannot stop smiling over the 2015 Super Bowl INT. Packers should steer clear.

https://t.co/sxt8gJdTYj

[pbmax]

Here he comes!

[woodbuck27]

Possible return for Tramontana? (I don't think he would qualify as a big ticket FA)

http://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018...amon-williams/

Tramon Williams #25 DB ...Arizona Cardinals

Height: 6-0 Weight: 192 Age: 34

Born: 3/16/1983 Houma , LA ... College: Louisiana Tech ...Experience: 11th season

http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and-events/blogs/article-4/Tramon-Williams-Graded-As-A-Top-10-Cornerback/814f2f58-afaf-4999-b8a4-f8f2dfa4623a

Tramon Williams Graded As A Top-10 Cornerback

Posted Dec 28, 2017

http://www.nfl.com/player/tramonwilliams/2506789/careerstats

Tramon Williams Career Stats.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/arizona-cardinals/tramon-williams-3761/

Tramon Williams Current Contract

[woodbuck27]

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Packers’ CB Damarious Randall is undergoing hand surgery today and will need six to eight weeks to recover, per a league source.

https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/Bolt/Green-Bay-Packers-Damarious-Randall-ranked-55th-best-outside-cornerback-in-NFL-by-Bleacher-Report-114416271

Damarious Randall ranked 55th best outside cornerback in NFL

Damarious Randall led the Packers with four interceptions in 2017.

Brian Jones - Jan 30, 2:05 PM 0

Comment woodbuck27:

See Post NO. 53 (immediately above) this thread:

If you can bring in CB Tramon Williams relatively cheap and set him on working with our DB's do you not try to do that?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Aaron Nagler thinks Malcolm Butler is just what the Packers need at corner. I think he is an idiot.

Butler, a UDFA, has had two seasons (2015, 17) allowing better than 94 passer rating on throws to his man. He had one year under 80 (2016).

He is going to command dumb money from someone who cannot stop smiling over the 2015 Super Bowl INT. Packers should steer clear.

https://t.co/sxt8gJdTYj

Butler's a Super Bowl hero, but I, for one, am tired of seeing sloth corners in the Green and Gold.

Hyde. Rollins. Gunter.

However, I wouldn't mind seeing another Al Harris. Richard Sherman still on the trade block?

[QBME]

Aaron Nagler thinks Malcolm Butler is just what the Packers need at corner. I think he is an idiot.

Butler, a UDFA, has had two seasons (2015, 17) allowing better than 94 passer rating on throws to his man. He had one year under 80 (2016).

He is going to command dumb money from someone who cannot stop smiling over the 2015 Super Bowl INT. Packers should steer clear.

https://t.co/sxt8gJdTYj

Gotta go with this take. Something was seriously wrong when he got benched at the last moment while the Pat's secondary was being torched. Head case.

[Joemailman]

Ian Rapoport
✔
@RapSheet
My understanding is the benching of #Patriots CB Malcolm Butler happened because of a perfect storm of issues: Sickness, a rough week of practice, and a minor rule violation believed to be related to curfew. A complicated matter.

Belichick has reportedly been tough on guys before for missing curfew. Pretty extreme though to stick with it through he whole Super Bowl.

[woodbuck27]

Comment woodbuck27:

Posted for a basis and discussion.

https://lombardiave.com/2018/01/01/green-bay-packers-12-players-offseason/

Green Bay Packers: 12 players that need to go this offseason

By: Ralph Mancini1 month agoFollow @reverendralph

GO PACK GO !

[pbmax]

Finally, some injury rankings. As expected, Packers are middle of pack for last 3 years after being trend setting from 2009-2013.

According to Mangameslost.com, the [2017] Packers ranked 17th with 237 games lost to injury. Man-Games Lost includes players who were put on injured reserve during training camp even if they weren’t going to make the team, so the numbers are a little inflated.

Using only players who were on the 53-man roster at some point during the season, a total of 36 missed a combined total of 183 games.

Given that Man-Games Lost uses the same criteria for every team, their rankings are probably about as accurate as anyone could calculate. The Packers’ No. 17 ranking is much better than a stretch from 2009-13 when they ranked 5th, 6th, 18th, 1st and 2nd in games lost due to injury.

From 2009-16, their combined totals ranked sixth highest for games lost.

Since McCarthy in 2014 changed the practice schedule so that Friday was a recovery day, the Packers have ranked 15th, 24th, 10th and 17th in most games lost due to injury, according to Man-Games Lost. Still, the Packers have not had a year like the Minnesota Vikings just did when they suffered so few injuries they finished 31st in games lost.

2014 also marked the full time hire of a sports science guy and a change in nutrition for camp at least.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2018/03/04/silverstein-packers-spread-blame-injuries/390009002/

[pbmax]

Football Perspective @fbgchase
For elite wide receivers, the prime years are ages 26 to 31, with 27-to-29 being the three best seasons.

http://www.footballperspective.com/larry-fitzgerald-charlie-joiner-and-great-receivers-with-underwhelming-primes/

I am getting more and more convinced that both Cobb and Nelson stay, but that Nelson might get a trim down from this year's salary in exchange for another couple of years at a lower price.